PDT's vote didn't sink you guys. A small 35 aircraft Turbo prop utfit that cost more money to get anywhere near the size will cost AAG more money in the long run. They could just give more airplanes to the contract carriers. They know this and that's why they not only come back once, twice but now it looks like 3 times.

Go ahead and bring up the CEO compensation at negotiations, im sure it will have a lot of leverage :rolleyes: . Then you can look like a "dummy" to quote you.

Guys, it's very simple. Wake up. Look at your cards. Open your eyes. Time's on our side. It's a solid NO vote. Let them sweat. Now, where is my popcorn!

Well said. Its really that simple. Thanks and hang in there.

How Jerry's kids are allowed to freely wonder through the forums spreading Christmas fear and dispare.
NO is No. Three times No. Want to make it 4 times let's do it. Aag feed is unraveling. Feeders screwing pilots to try to meet the schedule. Mesa is losing lax and clt and they are the cheapest why is that. Heard delta suing compass for breach of contract because they can only feed delta if true there goes another 20 175's up for grabs again.

AA full abortion. no one can fly your garbage.

A lot of the "industry will never change" types seem to cleverly disregard the solidarity between Eagle, ExpressJet and Republic. Thousands have said no. The whole "get in, get out" mentality doesn't work. The planes are getting bigger and the stay is getting longer with that philosophy. Pay me what I am worth, you douchebags, is the new philosophy.

If flow is the issue, why not put in this proviso: if flow is dropped or canceled, immediate 15% increase in pay for all pilots. If it is metered, the pay increases 1% for every slot below 30. Increase cap to 15/6.

Because the company can play the "NO" game too. (And they already have with that one last time)

What will solidarity buy you in the end? I'm asking this to see what exactly the tangible benefits are. I'm also asking to point out that, in the end, despite the pat on the back we might get from other regionals, we are in this alone. I have been, and likely will be, a no voter; but in the interest of non-AAG offer discussion, what's the perspective here?

I would think that is obvious. The whole regional model relies on the shell game where one airline offers quick upgrades in exchange for pilot contract concession. Then others follow suit. IF 10,000 pilots are taking a stand against this, it becomes impossible to shift a large amount of flying around to the lowest bidder. If a pilot group of 4,000 says no, it makes it easier for the group of 2,000 to say no, since they know they won't be undercut and they feel a sense of dishonor if they try to undercut the others through concessions.

Finally, the puppy mills aren't cranking out the pilots like they used to so there is no way to use the SJS to attract enough newbies. It should also be painfully obvious by now, that never ending rounds of concessions just ensure regionals will persists, and fly ever larger aircraft at the expense of mainline jobs.