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flyviper 10-29-2014 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1755496)
Outside of the bitter lifers like Buddies most are indicating they're voting yes this time around. Guys are tired of trying to stand up for an industry that doesn't care. New hires are flocking to PSA, Mesa, PDT, etc. why should they fall on their swords and lose their jobs for nothing?

Good luck guys, I hope it passes.

Funny how we were saying the same thing couple months ago at pdt and everybody in the world was hating on us.

DaCowboys 10-29-2014 09:04 PM

Components of company's proposal to ENY MEC
 
Is this all rumors? Any factual evidence? Thanks!

DENpilot 10-29-2014 09:09 PM

If true, does anyone see a pattern here? They keep coming back because they cannot execute this plan they have to have Eagle as a ERJ only operator.

Keep firm, guys.

JoeMerchant 10-29-2014 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 1755532)
If true, does anyone see a pattern here? They keep coming back because they cannot execute this plan they have to have Eagle as a ERJ only operator.

Keep firm, guys.

....says the toughguy from XJT who fled to Mesa for the quick upgrade...Really? You went to Mesa and you are going to lecture others?

FaceBiter 10-29-2014 09:45 PM

Who is worse?

A pilot who...

Voted in a substandard contract? or One who runs to work for an operator with a well documented bottom of the barrel contract?

I'll take your answers off the air.

Jet87 10-29-2014 10:40 PM


Originally Posted by FaceBiter (Post 1755543)
Who is worse?

A pilot who...

Voted in a substandard contract? or One who runs to work for an operator with a well documented bottom of the barrel contract?

I'll take your answers off the air.

I'll vote for DENpilot

DENpilot 10-29-2014 10:47 PM


Originally Posted by JoeMerchant (Post 1755537)
....says the toughguy from XJT who fled to Mesa for the quick upgrade...Really? You went to Mesa and you are going to lecture others?

I'm not lecturing anyone. I am standing behind them. Big difference.

BTW, I didn't flee to Mesa. I was furloughed in 2008 and exercised my recall rights that were deferred under the 1500 hour rule LOA.

I'll vote "no" on any POS contract that comes along here, but it doesn't mean I have to stagnate my own career while your lifer *** can continue to make 3-4x the pay I make, all while building time that does essentially nothing to my career progression.

I'll do what I can to help the greater good out, but that does not include 8-10 years in right seat of an RJ.

Nevets 10-30-2014 02:21 AM


Originally Posted by JoeMerchant (Post 1755537)
....says the toughguy from XJT who fled to Mesa for the quick upgrade...Really? You went to Mesa and you are going to lecture others?


No concessions
One List
One Flow

buddies8 10-30-2014 03:56 AM


Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1755496)
Outside of the bitter lifers like Buddies most are indicating they're voting yes this time around. Guys are tired of trying to stand up for an industry that doesn't care. New hires are flocking to PSA, Mesa, PDT, etc. why should they fall on their swords and lose their jobs for nothing?

Good luck guys, I hope it passes.

better than who gives in and tries to validate there position as you do. new hires have been flocking to psa, pdt and mesa etc, for an awful long time they did not just start yesterday. for those yes voters, what can i say other than spineless and weak. this has nothing to do with falling in any sword, it has to do with stopping management from changing its mind and coming for changes to our contract every 2 months.

Give the flying to someone else, AAG owes us nothing if they can get it cheaper as they say elsewhere, more power to them. As is in the last year they have only promised and no actual contract filed in the 10K regarding compass. The only thing happening at envoy is what was planned 3 years ago, planes being parked and we all knew rumors had RAH in MIA and ORD when they got the contract initially.

But BZZT feel free to keep crying.

Bzzt 10-30-2014 04:17 AM


Originally Posted by buddies8 (Post 1755580)
better than who gives in and tries to validate there position as you do. new hires have been flocking to psa, pdt and mesa etc, for an awful long time they did not just start yesterday. for those yes voters, what can i say other than spineless and weak. this has nothing to do with falling in any sword, it has to do with stopping management from changing its mind and coming for changes to our contract every 2 months.

Give the flying to someone else, AAG owes us nothing if they can get it cheaper as they say elsewhere, more power to them. As is in the last year they have only promised and no actual contract filed in the 10K regarding compass. The only thing happening at envoy is what was planned 3 years ago, planes being parked and we all knew rumors had RAH in MIA and ORD when they got the contract initially.

But BZZT feel free to keep crying.

This decision doesn't affect me at all, it does however affect you and your coworkers. It's sad you're so willing to throw away your career because you're angry at the company and unwilling to accept the economic reality of your situation. I sincerely hope that when it comes time to vote on this you consider the coworkers who you're screwing over so you can stick it to the man and make some pointless moral stand.


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