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Cujo665 10-30-2014 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1755633)
I hope they do read this, I hope the pilots here are smart enough to quit listening to your misinformation (no one can staff, pilot shortage, everyone will be at a major in 5 years anyway, etc.) and vote in a deal to secure at least some future so guys at Envoy don't have to start over at another regional. You and Kyle have hurt us pretty significantly recently, I hope your damage can be undone.


I'd suggest you call and ask your reps before continuing to keep spreading inaccurate information.

The claims you are attributing to the union (or me) are not accurate, Not accurate at all.

How many road shows did you attend? Obviously none, or you'd know this already.

Time is on our side.

love2av8 10-30-2014 06:49 AM

Components of company's proposal to ENY MEC
 
Sorry BILLIONS in profit and they want to cut my paycheck even more. Sorry AAG, ain't gonna happen this time. We gave until it hurt in BK and got nothing in return but false promises. Unless I see contract improvements, I'm happy to continue under our current crappy BK contract.

Bzzt 10-30-2014 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by Cujo665 (Post 1755646)
I'd suggest you call and ask your reps before continuing to keep spreading inaccurate information.

The claims you are attributing to the union (or me) are not accurate, Not accurate at all.

How many road shows did you attend? Obviously none, or you'd know this already.

Time is on our side.

I would never waste my time attending a roadshow of people who I don't respect lording over their pilot fiefdom that is the equivalent of Botswana in the grand scheme of things. I don't believe for a second that everyone who told me the claims you made was lying, sorry. I'm not ok with playing revisionist history now.

The other guy who will "fly his bankruptcy contract" I hope you have another job lined up, you bankruptcy contract is taking you straight to the employment line.

Xdashdriver 10-30-2014 07:18 AM

Botswana isn't the best comparison. It is one of the most politically and economically stable countries in Africa. That description doesn't fit regional airlines very well.

Nevets 10-30-2014 09:12 AM

Your real leverage is in having a plan b.

stanherman 10-30-2014 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by publicphone (Post 1755362)
-10 year duration​
​​​5 year amendment round must be cost neutral

-Fleet Guarantee includes 130 aircraft

-Pay Increases of 1% per year wage increase

-$10,000 Signing Bonus

-Eliminate Profit Sharing

-Pay Caps:
​​​12/4 caps apply beginning with delivery of first EMB-175
Relief on caps if AA fails to flow through minimum number of pilots

-Per Diem increases:
​​​Jan 1, 2015- $1.85
​​​Jan 1, 2019- $1.90
​​​Jan 1, 2021-$1.95

-Medical Contributions will increases:
​​​ 2015-31%
​​​ 2016-32%
​​​ 2017-33%
​ ​2018-34%
​​​ 2019-35%

-Flow Through:
​​​ 824: Flow through minimum increased to 30 per month
Protected Pilots: Minimum raised to increase to 50% of AA classes
​​​ Pilots Hired after October, 2011 will have flow through rights

Hi Jerry!

Glad you could make it!

I know your plan with the flowthrough. You hope we're stupid enough to vote yes to an enhanced flow thus losing our current arbitrated flow award.

You snakes want to be able to stop the flow because if we vote yes it will now become "contractual flow" and you can manage to keep people here when the staffing gets low.

Good try, maybe try another alias.

stanherman 10-30-2014 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by Bzzt (Post 1755650)
I would never waste my time attending a roadshow of people who I don't respect lording over their pilot fiefdom that is the equivalent of Botswana in the grand scheme of things. I don't believe for a second that everyone who told me the claims you made was lying, sorry. I'm not ok with playing revisionist history now.

The other guy who will "fly his bankruptcy contract" I hope you have another job lined up, you bankruptcy contract is taking you straight to the employment line.

Hey Bzzt,

I agree with you man. Wouldn't be caught dead at one of those comic-con pilot conventions.

PilotCrusader 10-30-2014 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by citxls (Post 1755743)
Hi Jerry!

Glad you could make it!

I know your plan with the flowthrough. You hope we're stupid enough to vote yes to an enhanced flow thus losing our current arbitrated flow award.

You snakes want to be able to stop the flow because if we vote yes it will now become "contractual flow" and you can manage to keep people here when the staffing gets low.

Good try, maybe try another alias.

The reason it is broken up into 825 and protected pilots is so that the 824 remains an arbitrated award.

N927EV 10-30-2014 09:51 AM

So, this thread was started by jerry or one of his butt buddies to get us talking and arguing about the next TA? I vote we just de-rail this thread, like so many other eagle-voy threads in the past!

Bzzt 10-30-2014 09:54 AM


Originally Posted by Xdashdriver (Post 1755663)
Botswana isn't the best comparison. It is one of the most politically and economically stable countries in Africa. That description doesn't fit regional airlines very well.

Oh well, I guess I'm not well versed in African nations, sorry.


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