Originally Posted by TalkTurkey

Can't you see that the Legacies bank on your hasty moves? XJT planes to TSA, Envoy's to PSA, now Endeavor's to SkyWest and perhaps AWAC. This is designed for you to jump ship to another carrier, stay cheap and even fly the same routes. FOs flock under false hopes of a quick upgrade. Perhaps some may get it, but who's gonna be your FO? There's no way PSA will staff the infusion of 77 RJs even if all of 9E's FOs bail.

Stay where you're at until you move up, let the system crumble, and for f@&$ sakes let the legacies fix this.

Originally Posted by GoIsotopes

@Tallflyer

-you in groundschool at your 4th regional yet?

Originally Posted by DENpilot

Bingo. I'm tired of people telling me what I should do/have done with my career.

I'm not going to stagnate my career for the 'greater good.' I want to get hired at a major carrier ASAP, not 10 years from now. Is the 'greater good' going to pay my bills? Is the 'greater good' going to make up the $250,000 difference in my 401K in 40 years? Is the 'greater good' going to get me Christmas off 10 years from now so I can spend it with my family because my seniority won't hold it as a new hire at mainline?

I think going to PSA is a scummy move, but those guys are going to have a job at United/Delta/AA before the FOs who sit at XJT/AE/9E. That's just the facts.

Originally Posted by AlaskaBound

This is a dumb thread. Guys leave XJT, 9E and Envoy for a variety of reasons. Some do it to chase the upgrade but most do it because their quality of life is terrible and they are losing relative seniority as the list shrinks from the bottom up. Why sit there and take a beating (some people like to be beat though and then say they deserve it) when there are better opportunities out there that will greatly improve QOL and increase your pay and hopefully one day upgrade. Heaven forbid a 7-8 year FO at 9E wanting to progress his career by moving on to something better.
Maybe I"m in the minority of thinking that I should improve my QOL and work on progressing my career goals. I won't sit here and "take one for the team", make my family suffer and get bogged down because you don't think I should improve my livelihood.
Those of you who don't understand this mentality are more than likely super senior FOs who have great QOL or are captains who have no room to complain.

Originally Posted by swamp

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Originally Posted by TalkTurkey


Can't you see that the Legacies bank on your hasty moves? XJT planes to TSA, Envoy's to PSA, now Endeavor's to SkyWest and perhaps AWAC. This is designed for you to jump ship to another carrier, stay cheap and even fly the same routes. FOs flock under false hopes of a quick upgrade. Perhaps some may get it, but who's gonna be your FO? There's no way PSA will staff the infusion of 77 RJs even if all of 9E's FOs bail.

Stay where you're at, let the system crumble, and for f@&$ sakes let the legacies fix this.




Good post, at 9E there have been many 7+ year FO's bailing to start at the bottom of PSA or compass. Might have been a good move a year ago, but now, PSA and compass will soon have the same problem 9E is having = hiring new pilots and those FOs leaving now will be stuck yet again at the bottom of another regionals seniority list. FOs leaving for allegiance, spirit, JetBlue or any other LCC makes sense, but leaving 7 years of seniority to start at the bottom of another regional, just doesn't make much sense. I get 9E is not the ideal place to work right now, but we have approx 70 CA waiting for a class date at Delta and many others leaving to United, and AA soon. Guys have stuck around and dedicated their time to 9E during the stagnation years, why bail now when the attrition years have just started?