End Of The Regionals
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It's not about how many leave, it's about the net loss. I've heard that some (one specifically) are losing up to 2% net per month but others are growing. Overall the industry loss is negligible.
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Conservatively 600 plus pilots are leaving the regionals each month.
No doubt there are pilots who are not trying to leave, but what percentage of each carrier is that?
What is the date of the door closing?
Mid 2016????
Time for pilots flying $30 million dollar aircraft with 70 plus passengers to get paid $100,000 minimum for a first officer.
No doubt there are pilots who are not trying to leave, but what percentage of each carrier is that?
What is the date of the door closing?
Mid 2016????
Time for pilots flying $30 million dollar aircraft with 70 plus passengers to get paid $100,000 minimum for a first officer.
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End ?
Not likely. Expect a steadily increasing inability to meet legacies needs that will become a crisis within a couple of years. 5 years from now, regionals will contract by at least 50% with larger 64-76 aircraft as the majority.
10 years from now. Boy, that's a real ugly wildcard if you ask me. Many small and medium cities will be in dire trouble void of air service. ATA will blame everyone but themselves, of course.
Not likely. Expect a steadily increasing inability to meet legacies needs that will become a crisis within a couple of years. 5 years from now, regionals will contract by at least 50% with larger 64-76 aircraft as the majority.
10 years from now. Boy, that's a real ugly wildcard if you ask me. Many small and medium cities will be in dire trouble void of air service. ATA will blame everyone but themselves, of course.
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End ?
Not likely. Expect a steadily increasing inability to meet legacies needs that will become a crisis within a couple of years. 5 years from now, regionals will contract by at least 50% with larger 64-76 aircraft as the majority.
10 years from now. Boy, that's a real ugly wildcard if you ask me. Many small and medium cities will be in dire trouble void of air service. ATA will blame everyone but themselves, of course.
Not likely. Expect a steadily increasing inability to meet legacies needs that will become a crisis within a couple of years. 5 years from now, regionals will contract by at least 50% with larger 64-76 aircraft as the majority.
10 years from now. Boy, that's a real ugly wildcard if you ask me. Many small and medium cities will be in dire trouble void of air service. ATA will blame everyone but themselves, of course.
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Conservatively 600 plus pilots are leaving the regionals each month.
No doubt there are pilots who are not trying to leave, but what percentage of each carrier is that?
What is the date of the door closing?
Mid 2016????
Time for pilots flying $30 million dollar aircraft with 70 plus passengers to get paid $100,000 minimum for a first officer.
No doubt there are pilots who are not trying to leave, but what percentage of each carrier is that?
What is the date of the door closing?
Mid 2016????
Time for pilots flying $30 million dollar aircraft with 70 plus passengers to get paid $100,000 minimum for a first officer.
You can't have it both ways..... entry level pilots commanding $100,000/yr. You aren't worth it.
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Then you are going to have to replace almost every regional first officer with first officers with REAL experience and that are worth $100,000/yr. Because current regional pilots aren't worth it since most are entry level pilots and what you are wanting isn't an entry level job anymore.
You can't have it both ways..... entry level pilots commanding $100,000/yr. You aren't worth it.
You can't have it both ways..... entry level pilots commanding $100,000/yr. You aren't worth it.
The 1500hr rule, new ATP regulations and increased cost of education are all acting to make it less appealing to enter the profession. Most on here think in terms of the singularity of the US market and if you take a look at the world outside the CONUS the starting salary is higher on average. I taught many students that left the US to go back home with a fresh CPL that made more starting than I ever will as a regional FO. Just my two cents though.
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Why is that entry level physicians and pharmacists and many other highly sought professions command a significantly higher starting salary than do first officers whom have spent a significant amount on education and training? I'll tell you why, it's not because you they are not worth it, they are worth every bit. Someone mentioned on here sometime ago that the doctors figured it out while the lawyers and pilots, not so much. Make it harder(read selective) to enter the profession and you will see the supply-demand pendulum swing the other way around.
The 1500hr rule, new ATP regulations and increased cost of education are all acting to make it less appealing to enter the profession. Most on here think in terms of the singularity of the US market and if you take a look at the world outside the CONUS the starting salary is higher on average. I taught many students that left the US to go back home with a fresh CPL that made more starting than I ever will as a regional FO. Just my two cents though.
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The 1500hr rule, new ATP regulations and increased cost of education are all acting to make it less appealing to enter the profession. Most on here think in terms of the singularity of the US market and if you take a look at the world outside the CONUS the starting salary is higher on average. I taught many students that left the US to go back home with a fresh CPL that made more starting than I ever will as a regional FO. Just my two cents though.
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