End Of The Regionals
12-01-2014 | 11:02 AM
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I got my private when I was 17 and my Dad taught me. When the big day came for my oral and checkride, he drove me to the airport and he waited and I passed and I was beaming. As he was a pilot also (USAF), on the way home he said some nice things and commended me on my accomplishment. He concluded his praise by saying, "But just remember this son. You can teach a damned monkey how to fly." I couldn't believe he said that, but later I realized he did so to keep my ego in check and I'm sure I needed that at the time. Years and years and thousands and thousands of hours later, I always remembered that at times when I was just so bored I could cry.
12-01-2014 | 11:45 AM
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[QUOTE=clearprop;1773826]That's not even close to an accurate analogy. Even after you have been screened using MCAT and undergraduate GPA, those that manage to be accepted into a medical school, only 80% will graduate. I can't imagine how many each year aren't admitted. When I was a flight instructor, I had some of the dumbest people on earth eventually get the skills and knowledge necessary to pass a checkride. It may have cost them $30,000 per ticket, but they were loaded and even after several "come to Jesus" meetings, they eventually went back to their country of origin with a fresh certificate.
12-01-2014 | 03:12 PM
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I got my private when I was 17 and my Dad taught me. When the big day came for my oral and checkride, he drove me to the airport and he waited and I passed and I was beaming. As he was a pilot also (USAF), on the way home he said some nice things and commended me on my accomplishment. He concluded his praise by saying, "But just remember this son. You can teach a damned monkey how to fly." I couldn't believe he said that, but later I realized he did so to keep my ego in check and I'm sure I needed that at the time. Years and years and thousands and thousands of hours later, I always remembered that at times when I was just so bored I could cry.
12-01-2014 | 03:29 PM
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[QUOTE=CBreezy;1773853]
That's not even close to an accurate analogy. Even after you have been screened using MCAT and undergraduate GPA, those that manage to be accepted into a medical school, only 80% will graduate. I can't imagine how many each year aren't admitted. When I was a flight instructor, I had some of the dumbest people on earth eventually get the skills and knowledge necessary to pass a checkride. It may have cost them $30,000 per ticket, but they were loaded and even after several "come to Jesus" meetings, they eventually went back to their country of origin with a fresh certificate.
Having worked with both doctors and lawyers, I stick with my fix. You are naive to think otherwise. However, I respect your opinion.
That's not even close to an accurate analogy. Even after you have been screened using MCAT and undergraduate GPA, those that manage to be accepted into a medical school, only 80% will graduate. I can't imagine how many each year aren't admitted. When I was a flight instructor, I had some of the dumbest people on earth eventually get the skills and knowledge necessary to pass a checkride. It may have cost them $30,000 per ticket, but they were loaded and even after several "come to Jesus" meetings, they eventually went back to their country of origin with a fresh certificate.
12-01-2014 | 04:35 PM
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CBreezy,
And that's why military pilots are respected--doing fine on Monday, on the train home on Friday. Most classes lose 20% of the entering students. The class ahead of mad lost 20% before flight one. Can't buy your way to wings.
GF
And that's why military pilots are respected--doing fine on Monday, on the train home on Friday. Most classes lose 20% of the entering students. The class ahead of mad lost 20% before flight one. Can't buy your way to wings.
GF
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12-01-2014 | 04:54 PM
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I've seen pretty politically powerful UPT students get tossed--just ask a CT Governor's son. Dean Martin's son had loads of pull-Presidential pull. Physics and weak ability overcame that pull. Loads of Flag Officers have killed their sons with pull. So, the military mission has a way of evening things out. So, no you can't buy your way to military wings and cases where pull was applied, funerals were a distinct possibility.
Have you been thru AF or USN training?
GF
Have you been thru AF or USN training?
GF
12-01-2014 | 05:15 PM
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You know, your juvenile insults really are entertaining. Are you going to throw a temper tantrum next? Your inability to counter my post with any real facts just proves that you are truly an ignoramus...and you're suprisingly bad at google. My 13 year old cousin does a better job using search engines.
According to Reuters, BusinessInsider, AND Fox Business, Delta profits were $357 Million. If you need someone to explain to you how money works, talk to a college freshman.
According to Reuters, BusinessInsider, AND Fox Business, Delta profits were $357 Million. If you need someone to explain to you how money works, talk to a college freshman.
You see Richard is dumb and sucks at math like me.
Send him an email and let him know how stupid he is for paying out profit sharing on the $1.6 billion in 3rd quarter profits. When you show him your math and how he can pay out 75% less in profit sharing, you are sure to be hired and made a Vice President.
12-01-2014 | 05:20 PM
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Regional FOs make what they make because the majors have set up a system where pilot "costs" have to be at a certain point or the regional can't make money. Regional margins are very tight and there are a dozen companies waiting to take the flying if a company decides they need more money.
There is a pool of money available for pilots which is more or less static (there is a little room for negotiation) and what is negotiated is how to divvy it up. I'm not sure who decided what the captain/FO split should be but it is definitely slanted in favor of captains at the regional level.
For the total compensation package to increase in a meaningful way at contractor companies the majors will have to decide they want to pay regional pilots more. In my opinion the dearth of qualified regional candidates will eventually force compensation higher at the lower end of the industry. That could mean higher regional wages or a transfer of flying to mainline.
There is a pool of money available for pilots which is more or less static (there is a little room for negotiation) and what is negotiated is how to divvy it up. I'm not sure who decided what the captain/FO split should be but it is definitely slanted in favor of captains at the regional level.
For the total compensation package to increase in a meaningful way at contractor companies the majors will have to decide they want to pay regional pilots more. In my opinion the dearth of qualified regional candidates will eventually force compensation higher at the lower end of the industry. That could mean higher regional wages or a transfer of flying to mainline.
Restoring the profession. We thumbed our noses at small airplane flying and we all paid a heavy price.
Now is the time to make it right and bring the profession to the high level it deserves.
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