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Old 12-06-2014, 02:35 PM
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It'a all about the majors limiting their exposure to liability.
Headline: Pilot of accident aircraft had a history of failed checkrides.

Most people have one or more on record unless they went to all in house, had good examiners or were just amazing students.
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Old 12-06-2014, 02:41 PM
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The useful information in this thread stopped somewhere on page 2, since then it's been full of much conjecture.
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Old 12-06-2014, 03:05 PM
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What about pilots with DUIs? Criminal records? Speeding tickets? Are those any better then training busts? Should 135/121 operators not be legally allowed to hire those types too?
I wish a law like that would be enacted too. I want somebody squeaky clean sharing my flight deck or flying my family around.
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Old 12-06-2014, 03:09 PM
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Does PRIA even do anything? I mean there's multiple airlines so desperate they disregard PRIA, DUI's, 709's, enforcement actions and other serious issues just to fill the seat.
No. But that's the free market world.
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Old 12-06-2014, 04:27 PM
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PRIA doesnt mean much....all it says is a carrier has to request the records from a previous company. They do not have to receive the records or even open the envelope or if even pay attention to the record if they do open the envelope.
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed View Post
PRIA records are still held by airlines. Airmen records are supposedly being digitized in OKC.

For a government agency to undertake a massive IT effort such as scanning millions of documents or setting up a massive database (like a centralized PRIA database), funding is required. Manpower is required.

The FAA operates on a shoestring budget with a minimal staff that is constantly fluctuating with every reauthorization act/administration. After repeated series of Republican budget cuts at the Federal level over the last decade, it shouldn't surprise anyone that things are still stored on microfilm in OKC.
Airlines were instructed to turn over records to the FAA to be digitized. The central PRIA database will house all the records. Airlines will report, not store. One request is the future method of access.
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Old 12-06-2014, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes View Post
The useful information in this thread stopped somewhere on page 2, since then it's been full of much conjecture.
No conjecture on my part. One of my contacts is a current, sitting NTSB board member. Also have the advantage of editors and fact checkers when publishing an article. Everything I've said is truthful. But 6 weeks of searching government docs, congressional proceedings, and the federal register will do that.
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PRIA doesnt mean much....all it says is a carrier has to request the records from a previous company. They do not have to receive the records or even open the envelope or if even pay attention to the record if they do open the envelope.
This is actually true. Bad PRIA does not legally preclude hiring. The purpose is to assist with the decision.
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Originally Posted by flapshalfspeed View Post
PRIA records are still held by airlines. Airmen records are supposedly being digitized in OKC.

For a government agency to undertake a massive IT effort such as scanning millions of documents or setting up a massive database (like a centralized PRIA database), funding is required. Manpower is required.

The FAA operates on a shoestring budget with a minimal staff that is constantly fluctuating with every reauthorization act/administration. After repeated series of Republican budget cuts at the Federal level over the last decade, it shouldn't surprise anyone that things are still stored on microfilm in OKC.
It's now Federal Law so the FAA will have to put into play. When, is anyone's guess. But the agency does not have a choice. Much of this was driven by political pressure from the legislators of the state of NY after the Colgan crash.
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation View Post
It's now Federal Law so the FAA will have to put into play. When, is anyone's guess. But the agency does not have a choice. Much of this was driven by political pressure from the legislators of the state of NY after the Colgan crash.
So basically it would just be easier for the prospective companies to find out about check ride busts and incidents/accidents?
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