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Old 12-23-2014 | 08:54 AM
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I've heard A4A and individual airlines (at all levels) are lobbying hard for massively reduced minimums. Their argument heavily relies on popping chaff with the military as a completely out of context example.

They are lobbying right now for vastly reduced minimums this way. They claim that because the military safely trains competent aviators at the 300ish hour mark, they can do the same. Ovbiously they have no intention of spending millions of dollars per pilot like the military does, nor will they tolerate anywhere near the washout rate the military has. They have no intention of giving every hour of training in 5 million dollar glass turboprops, etc. They want the hour mark reduced, that's it.

They intend to try and fool the regulators with "advanced simulator time" and possibly semi-British style irrelevant academic busy work in lieu of actual experience.

The funny thing is that even a non motion sim like some of the flight academies already use is fairly expensive and really only good for shorter term transition courses. And nevermind that the entire industry ran fine and got whatever pilots it wanted during periods of record hiring with widespread "12 and 2" competitive minimums (which meant the vast majority had well over the 1500 mins of today).

The problem is insufficient numbers of prospective pilots getting into the pipeline. Part of it is cost and part of it is the lack of recruitment. Flight training has gotten way out of hand not even including the recently falling fuel surcharges. The flight school infrastructure has been neglected for too long. What remains to the average prospective student are insanely expensive college or academy programs or go it alone with indy FBO's while trying to pay off their 6 figure degree in nothing thanks to the bubble.

A lot needs to be done. We need a new and improved General Aviation Revitalization Act with strong tort protections for flight schools, manufacturers and parts providers and insurance companies. We need better recruitment efforts. We need significantly cheaper college degrees paired with significantly cheaper flight training. And we need to build a supply of CFI's again that actually stay and teach for *gasp!* a year or two instead of punching out at some fantasy out of context paramilitary minimum number of hours. Thinking this will be solved by lowering the mins is just stupid.
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Old 12-23-2014 | 09:16 AM
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In the military, discipline is in everything we do, training, studying, even while eating...etc etc. you can't compare military to civilian
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Old 12-23-2014 | 09:18 AM
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I am glad the increase of minimums, there are many other paths to get the hours....nommesaying!!!!
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Old 12-23-2014 | 09:20 AM
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I heard the FAA is proposing type like a time try system, X many tries in a cert. is game over, again, just overheard in an faa safety seminar.
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Old 12-23-2014 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by bozobigtop
If you notice the only communities having trouble with reliable air service are small cities. I haven't heard too many large cities have any issues unless you desire to travel to hooterville. We will see how long congress allows this to continue!
Hooterville? Sign me up!
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Old 12-23-2014 | 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by PCLCREW
Ya all those small cities like...
JFK-DFW/ORD/MSY and that's just a drop in the bucket. The use of the RJ is hardly just a small city airplane.
Remember when there was no RJs and the airlines used DC-9s/727s/737s to connect those cities.
Take a look around the world most airlines don't use RJs to feed their hubs.
No RJs = No RJs... That's it.

I do remember, whereas I grew up in the 70's and witness now called legacy carriers flying to small cities. The 70's was a different economics world compared with today's standards in which everyone did not fly on an airline. Don't expect many large carriers to go back into time to serve small markets because they can make more money operating long haul international flights.
Agreed, and that wasn't really the point of my post... I was really commenting the No RJs = No wide bodies statement because at one time there were no RJs, and the rest of the world really doesn't use them.
Small city service is a luxury in this country, if they weren't served it wouldn't mean the airlines would stop flying.
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Old 12-23-2014 | 09:48 AM
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Heaven forbid the people of BFE, USA drive 40 minutes to the nearby bigger city. I'm not a fan of these EAS routes, why do people go live in these isolated little places then expect government subsidized transportation back to the real world so they can partake in commerce? Either pay the free market price of that transportation or stop being a hermit.
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Old 12-23-2014 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Heaven forbid the people of BFE, USA drive 40 minutes to the nearby bigger city. I'm not a fan of these EAS routes, why do people go live in these isolated little places then expect government subsidized transportation back to the real world so they can partake in commerce? Either pay the free market price of that transportation or stop being a hermit.
Well, someone has to farm the fields now dont they?
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Old 12-23-2014 | 09:55 AM
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Granted, but there are dozens of towns in the Southwest and Alaska that have no apparent purpose.
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Old 12-23-2014 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
Granted, but there are dozens of towns in the Southwest and Alaska that have no apparent purpose.
The Southwest, some I see the point, Alaska I can see why, alot of those towns get isolated in the winter time so I'm sure alot of those routes are for supplies and cargo more so than actual people
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