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Old 12-23-2014 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bozobigtop
If you notice the only communities having trouble with reliable air service are small cities. I haven't heard too many large cities have any issues unless you desire to travel to hooterville. We will see how long congress allows this to continue!
The problem is that there are thousands of small towns all cross the country being served with RJ's. It isn't the small towns that will complain, but rather the major airlines that no longer have thousands of people from those small towns on their flights. The RJ's bring the people to the hub's. That is how it works.

No RJ's=no wide bodies.
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JFK-DFW/ORD/MSY and that's just a drop in the bucket. The use of the RJ is hardly just a small city airplane.
Remember when there was no RJs and the airlines used DC-9s/727s/737s to connect those cities.
Take a look around the world most airlines don't use RJs to feed their hubs.
No RJs = No RJs... That's it.
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Old 12-23-2014 | 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
The problem is that there are thousands of small towns all cross the country being served with RJ's. It isn't the small towns that will complain, but rather the major airlines that no longer have thousands of people from those small towns on their flights. The RJ's bring the people to the hub's. That is how it works.

No RJ's=no wide bodies.
Brian Bedford, is that you? I guess the US airline industry has only been around since the turn of the century.
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Old 12-23-2014 | 07:16 AM
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Brian Bedford, is that you? I guess the US airline industry has only been around since the turn of the century.
A 727 stopping in to Podunk USA 2-3 days a week really won't cut it anymore. That is what it used to be like.

Now, there are major corporations located in these small towns - corporations that rely on air transportation. With the loss of this service, the corporations will likely leave the small towns and move closer to the major cities. They expect 2-3 flights a day.
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Old 12-23-2014 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
A 727 stopping in to Podunk USA 2-3 days a week really won't cut it anymore. That is what it used to be like.

Now, there are major corporations located in these small towns - corporations that rely on air transportation. With the loss of this service, the corporations will likely leave the small towns and move closer to the major cities. They expect 2-3 flights a day.
So, they expect 3 flights a day (150-240 seats) a day. You're telling me that once or twice daily service using a 717 (117 seats) wouldn't cut it?
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Old 12-23-2014 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
So, they expect 3 flights a day (150-240 seats) a day. You're telling me that once or twice daily service using a 717 (117 seats) wouldn't cut it?
That would be fine. I am talking about the difference between a 50 seat RJ twice a day or an Airbus every other day.
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Old 12-23-2014 | 07:56 AM
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It took a few years for congress to get this in place, they arent going to lower mins anytime soon, the families of the victims/ captain sully (oddly enough he supported the 1500 rule) and the general public will have an outcry before some kid can right seat with 750 or less hours anytime soon. Really the only people who are gonna hurt is mainline when to they have to start serving cities like TYS/BNA/MIA/DTW/STL with mainline again instead of 10x daily 50 seater and dont have the pilots or fleet to do so because they relied on Expressjet for so long to get it done.

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Old 12-23-2014 | 08:07 AM
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If congress changed the ATP rule to the old standard tomorrow.... the airline industry will still have a problem. The lack of pilots is primarily a compensation issue. Although the new law does reduce the available pool, it does not have the impact that low pay is creating.

Change it back... who cares... there will still be a problem staffing regionals (and eventually mainline).
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Old 12-23-2014 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy

No RJ's=no wide bodies.
Most clueless statement of the year.
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Old 12-23-2014 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
The free market will do its thing
This market is anything but free, you shouldn't pontificate about things that you fundamentally don't understand.
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Old 12-23-2014 | 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by PCLCREW
Ya all those small cities like...
JFK-DFW/ORD/MSY and that's just a drop in the bucket. The use of the RJ is hardly just a small city airplane.
Remember when there was no RJs and the airlines used DC-9s/727s/737s to connect those cities.
Take a look around the world most airlines don't use RJs to feed their hubs.
No RJs = No RJs... That's it.

I do remember, whereas I grew up in the 70's and witness now called legacy carriers flying to small cities. The 70's was a different economics world compared with today's standards in which everyone did not fly on an airline. Don't expect many large carriers to go back into time to serve small markets because they can make more money operating long haul international flights.
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