ATP Rule Change
12-22-2014, 10:50 PM
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ATP Rule Change
FAA looks at revising tougher pilot training rules implemented in wake of Flight 3407 - City & Region - The Buffalo News
Thoughts? Is it going to happen?
Thoughts? Is it going to happen?
12-22-2014, 11:05 PM
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The agency set up a committee earlier this year that will "develop and recommend to the FAA new or updated guidance material, notices, handbooks and other related materials for air-carrier training and qualification,” according to the committee’s charter, which the Flight 3407 families obtained and released Tuesday.
We need to make aviators more scarce, similar to doctors. A bigger barrier to entry will do that, and that's exactly what 1500 hours combined with increased training costs is. The free market will do its thing, and we should see pilot wages increase over years or decades. If they revoke 1500 (they won't, they'd do an MPL first), how about instead we establish a minimum pilot wage in light of the RLA neutering our negotiating abilities. Wishful thinking, I know.
12-23-2014, 04:40 AM
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The ATP rule was directly dictated by congress, not the FAA.
It's a little harder than it looks to waive, but the MPL could happen.
Yet, it would still be 2+ years before the first MPL licensee would be ready.
It's a little harder than it looks to waive, but the MPL could happen.
Yet, it would still be 2+ years before the first MPL licensee would be ready.
12-23-2014, 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by deltajuliet
If the whole story is based on that sentence, all of this seems like a reach. It's too vague to be definitively saying anything about changing ATP requirements.
We need to make aviators more scarce, similar to doctors. A bigger barrier to entry will do that, and that's exactly what 1500 hours combined with increased training costs is. The free market will do its thing, and we should see pilot wages increase over years or decades. If they revoke 1500 (they won't, they'd do an MPL first), how about instead we establish a minimum pilot wage in light of the RLA neutering our negotiating abilities. Wishful thinking, I know.
We need to make aviators more scarce, similar to doctors. A bigger barrier to entry will do that, and that's exactly what 1500 hours combined with increased training costs is. The free market will do its thing, and we should see pilot wages increase over years or decades. If they revoke 1500 (they won't, they'd do an MPL first), how about instead we establish a minimum pilot wage in light of the RLA neutering our negotiating abilities. Wishful thinking, I know.
If wages ever increase you can expect the number of pilots needed on the property to decrease as well as benefits. This is one of the many reasons I will never assume the responsibilities of a chief pilot or dir. of ops. again anywhere. I am through being someone else's b...h!
12-23-2014, 06:08 AM
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The FAA takes forever to do ANYTHING. They're afraid of technology ("untried, untested, unproven"), they focus-group everything, they put it out for comment, then ignore all the comments and take out all the good stuff and double-down on the bad. Then a new administration comes in and shakes up upper management and the whole process gets set back three years.
The current ATP rule will only change when congressional representatives are flooded with complaints from their constituents that service to their middle of nowhere town suddenly vanished for lack of pilots to fly there.
The current ATP rule will only change when congressional representatives are flooded with complaints from their constituents that service to their middle of nowhere town suddenly vanished for lack of pilots to fly there.
12-23-2014, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by NewPil0t
The ATP rule was directly dictated by congress, not the FAA.
It's a little harder than it looks to waive, but the MPL could happen.
Yet, it would still be 2+ years before the first MPL licensee would be ready.
It's a little harder than it looks to waive, but the MPL could happen.
Yet, it would still be 2+ years before the first MPL licensee would be ready.
If you notice the only communities having trouble with reliable air service are small cities. I haven't heard too many large cities have any issues unless you desire to travel to hooterville. We will see how long congress allows this to continue!
12-23-2014, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by bozobigtop
If you notice the only communities having trouble with reliable air service are small cities. I haven't heard too many large cities have any issues unless you desire to travel to hooterville. We will see how long congress allows this to continue!
No RJ's=no wide bodies.
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