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Old 01-15-2007 | 11:23 AM
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no,, unless you have enough pic you cant get your atp. A lot of guys who go the quick route only have 120 hours or so of pic. not the required 250 needed. so some have to go out and actually fly a cessna around just so they can upgrade. see, now isn't that silly, funny, scary?
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Old 01-15-2007 | 05:43 PM
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thought it was 500 pic to get an ATP? been a while since i've looked @ regs though.
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Old 01-15-2007 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Vader
Mins are now 1200/200, or is it? I was looking forward to apply.
I wouldn't waste my time there. Chances are they won't be around much longer
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Old 01-15-2007 | 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by flynavyj
thought it was 500 pic to get an ATP? been a while since i've looked @ regs though.
14 CFR 61.159
(a) Except as provided in paragraphs (b), (c), and (d) of this section, a person who is applying for an airline transport pilot certificate with an airplane category and class rating must have at least 1,500 hours of total time as a pilot that includes at least:

(4) 250 hours of flight time in an airplane as a pilot in command, or as second in command performing the duties of pilot in command while under the supervision of a pilot in command, or any combination thereof...
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Old 01-15-2007 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by POPA
14 CFR 61.159
(a) Except as provided in paragraphs (b), (c), and (d) of this section, a person who is applying for an airline transport pilot certificate with an airplane category and class rating must have at least 1,500 hours of total time as a pilot that includes at least:

(4) 250 hours of flight time in an airplane as a pilot in command, or as second in command performing the duties of pilot in command while under the supervision of a pilot in command, or any combination thereof...
These times are for an FAA ATP. The reality is far more worse for the low-timers...

Any airline that does international ops (ie canada & mexico) must use captains who meet ICAO ATP mins...this requires 1200 PIC, or right around there. More and more regionals are getting into this, and they are obviously changing their upgrade requirements.

I was laughing my *******ing @ss off at mesa when they instituted this requirement and all the MAPD folks who were about to upgrade were told they had to go back and and be an FO for another 1-3 years.
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Old 01-15-2007 | 08:28 PM
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I'm a new hire at Comair and can assure you that minimums are still 600 and 100. I've heard of some getting interviews with less than 100 multi....so it doesn't hurt to apply.

For all you dooms dayers out there, comair isn't going anywhere. Sure we have some challenges ahead, but this is truly a good time to get on with this airline.

Garritto
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Old 01-15-2007 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by POPA
14 CFR 61.159

(4) 250 hours of flight time in an airplane as a pilot in command, or as second in command performing the duties of pilot in command while under the supervision of a pilot in command, or any combination thereof...
there you go, so if your a 250 mesa pilot development wonder at a 121 airline and you did not get your PIC the right way, you can still use your 121 time to get your ATP
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Old 01-15-2007 | 09:29 PM
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think the 500 hrs i was thinking off was from the x/c requirement...heck, i think i had 250 pic before i even started instructing.
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Old 01-16-2007 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by flynavyj
think the 500 hrs i was thinking off was from the x/c requirement...heck, i think i had 250 pic before i even started instructing.
Most of us had 250 before we started instructing. Even then we had time as pic before we started to take someone elses life as our responsability. Thats why i laugh because the 250 rule can be thrown out too,, they are doing everything they can to keep times low and people unexperienced.
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Old 01-18-2007 | 04:23 PM
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Yeah, their mins are down to 600/50 I'm pretty sure. I'm at 1100/80 and have an interview the 23rd. Definitely apply, can't hurt right?
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