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Nice hand your playing here! I get what your doing and I wish I thought of it.

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Originally Posted by ThreeStripe (Post 1832843)

From my understanding, the L-XJT side of the house is also a very classy operation and if we ever get the two sides under one roof, we will have one fantastic airline.

That doesn't play into the "my dad can beat up your dad... WE bought YOU!" rhetoric, so I think it's unfortunate that more of us can't recognize the 99% of our interests that align and look past the 1% that separates us.

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Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 1832917)

I personally know several people that will give you the high brow and then unpolitely tell you how naive an full of crap this is. You ever wonder why Compass has up'd their hiring mins lately?

These several people you mention probably have only worked at one airline and have no frame of reference. I have worked for three airlines. This is the best. I will unpolitely tell them that.

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Originally Posted by Bozo (Post 1832792)

And what certificate does Expressjet operate on? That's right EV. ASQ... ACEY.

And how does that make a difference?

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Originally Posted by Urbandrone (Post 1832816)

That's L-XJT problem. Because ASA took the Expressjet name they have forgotten that the pilot group already put one company out of business, and that same pilot group is going to put another company out of business trying to prove you can put a square peg through a round hole.

What company was put out of business? The only way you can make a case of a pilot group putting a company out of business is if they strike for too long. And even then it's only arguable. This is all Skywest trying to put their whipsaw peg through our round hole. You can surrender and let them do it but resisting THEIR business plan is not what puts a company out of business. It's unbelievable that pilots will blame pilots when it's the CEO that is pitting his own employees against themselves so he and the shareholders can make a bit more money. Shameful.

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Originally Posted by JustAMushroom (Post 1832952)

One gets the sense SGU is desperately trying to extricate themselves from the mess that is XJT. This isn't a dig at the pilots, I recognize SGU signed onto some pretty crappy deals. But they have a bad taste in their mouths and they just want out of the 145s and the headaches. Most people around here think ASA will continue to thrive and will be one of the last regionals standing. If I had to bet, SGU wants the money from XJT to canibalize the smaller regionals pilots and in a few years there will be just a very few regionals at all.

Let's get one thing straight, this xjt mess is all on Skywest and no one else. But I doubt they are desperate. Their plan is going working out in the long term.

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Originally Posted by Maingear (Post 1832957)

Long story short-

As it stands now:
L-XJT - dead by 2018
L-ASA - Not dead in 2018 or in the foreseeable future.

It's not ASA vs XJT. It's just how the cards are falling. It's not political at the pilot group level.

Just to clarify, if LXJT is dead by the end of 2017 (which used to be 2020), then LASA is tentatively dead in 2022.

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Originally Posted by air101 (Post 1832560)

CPA...this was announced back in November.

"...SkyWest announced that ExpressJet Airlines, Inc., its wholly-owned subsidiary (“ExpressJet Airlines”), has executed an agreement with United Airlines, Inc. (“United”) to reduce the term of the existing 50-seat ERJ145 contract between ExpressJet and United from November 2020 to December 2017"

http://www.expressjet.com/wp-content...s-NOV-2014.pdf

You're missing the point of the change of the CPA. It was initiated by xjt to renegotiate a higher fee per departure and reduce the term length of the agreement so even higher rates can be negotiated sooner. Not to accelerate the demise of lxjt.

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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 1833658)

And to replace contract 50 seaters with larger (E175's) planes.

If I was a betting man, I would say the United side has a stronger chance of survival than the Delta side. American... too soon to tell.

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Originally Posted by XJT Pilot (Post 1832996)

Nice hand your playing here! I get what your doing and I wish I thought of it.

It's "you're". Seriously, why can't people get that sht by now?

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Originally Posted by Whiplash6 (Post 1833707)

It's "you're". Seriously, why can't people get that sht by now?

Because 4 out of 3 pilots are lysdexic and can't spell good.

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Originally Posted by Whiplash6 (Post 1833707)

It's "you're". Seriously, why can't people get that sht by now?

Grammar: The difference in knowing your sh!t or knowing you're sh!t.

Has anyone else noticed that the new checklist looks identical to delta's checklist?