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air101 03-01-2015 08:47 AM
Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator (Post 1833658)
You're missing the point of the change of the CPA. It was initiated by xjt to renegotiate a higher fee per departure and reduce the term length of the agreement so even higher rates can be negotiated sooner. Not to accelerate the demise of lxjt.

Absent United willing to pay more (which doesn't seem likely hence the transfer of aircraft to TSA) or any new contracts with larger aircraft (also unlikely due to scope) L-XJT, dies.

tothebigblue 03-01-2015 10:30 AM
Originally Posted by air101 (Post 1834682)
Absent United willing to pay more (which doesn't seem likely hence the transfer of aircraft to TSA) or any new contracts with larger aircraft (also unlikely due to scope) L-XJT, dies.
Good luck to ANY airline to staff and cover the amount of flying XJT (CRJ and ERJ) does should we go under.....Say what you want but the next carrier that flies for UAX is shuttle america and they do 3% of what XJT flies and next lowest for the DAL side is 9E and S5 based off of total flights...just some food for thought

gojo 03-01-2015 02:37 PM
Originally Posted by tothebigblue (Post 1834747)
Good luck to ANY airline to staff and cover the amount of flying XJT (CRJ and ERJ) does should we go under.....Say what you want but the next carrier that flies for UAX is shuttle america and they do 3% of what XJT flies and next lowest for the DAL side is 9E and S5 based off of total flights...just some food for thought
All I've been hearing for the last couple of years from mainline is there's going to be a significant reduction in 50 seat lift and a restrictive limit for lift above 50 seats. Maybe you guys have ear plugs in or I heard wrong. But that right there points to less airframes to staff and less flights to cover. I don't think it's wise to feel you're regional (contract lift) is not able to be replaced. Look at Comair, eagle/envoy for example.

Whiplash6 03-01-2015 02:51 PM
If you aren't planning on retiring at XJT then you really shouldn't care any less about the future of the company. Has everyone seen the retirement projections at the all the other real airlines?

afterburn81 03-01-2015 04:33 PM
Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 1832766)
Why do the XJT guys/gals on this board act like the ASA side doesn't exist..??
Um, did you grow up under power-lines as a kid. You seem to have an issue understanding simple concepts. I guess the "airtran" guys and the "Northwest" guys should be asking the same thing.

Let go chief………..

Bob Loblaw 03-01-2015 06:02 PM
Originally Posted by tothebigblue (Post 1834747)
Good luck to ANY airline to staff and cover the amount of flying XJT (CRJ and ERJ) does should we go under.....Say what you want but the next carrier that flies for UAX is shuttle america and they do 3% of what XJT flies and next lowest for the DAL side is 9E and S5 based off of total flights...just some food for thought
The same thing was once said at Eagle/envoy.

Nevets 03-01-2015 06:35 PM
Originally Posted by gojo (Post 1834915)
All I've been hearing for the last couple of years from mainline is there's going to be a significant reduction in 50 seat lift and a restrictive limit for lift above 50 seats. Maybe you guys have ear plugs in or I heard wrong. But that right there points to less airframes to staff and less flights to cover. I don't think it's wise to feel you're regional (contract lift) is not able to be replaced. Look at Comair, eagle/envoy for example.

The end state in scope at DAL and UAL allow 125 fifty seat aircraft. It's probably about the same for American. There will be a need for about 400 fifty seat jets in the industry once the dust settles.

JoeMerchant 03-01-2015 08:52 PM
Originally Posted by tothebigblue (Post 1834747)
Good luck to ANY airline to staff and cover the amount of flying XJT (CRJ and ERJ) does should we go under.....Say what you want but the next carrier that flies for UAX is shuttle america and they do 3% of what XJT flies and next lowest for the DAL side is 9E and S5 based off of total flights...just some food for thought
They are staffing it now with pilots from XJT that are chasing a quick upgrade. One 175 is being added at the other carriers for every 2 XJT 145s that are being retired at XJT. Then some of the 145s are being transferred to TSA and again being staffed by XJT pilots chasing the quick upgrade. You are being replaced by your fellow pilots for cheaper pay in exchange for a quick upgrade and you are in denial about it....

JoeMerchant 03-01-2015 08:55 PM
Originally Posted by gojo (Post 1834915)
All I've been hearing for the last couple of years from mainline is there's going to be a significant reduction in 50 seat lift and a restrictive limit for lift above 50 seats. Maybe you guys have ear plugs in or I heard wrong. But that right there points to less airframes to staff and less flights to cover. I don't think it's wise to feel you're regional (contract lift) is not able to be replaced. Look at Comair, eagle/envoy for example.
The LXJT guys don't have earplugs in...They just stick their fingers in their ears and yell "I CAN'T HEAR YOU"....They all live on that big river in Egypt...

tothebigblue 03-02-2015 05:04 AM
Originally Posted by JoeMerchant (Post 1835105)
The LXJT guys don't have earplugs in...They just stick their fingers in their ears and yell "I CAN'T HEAR YOU"....They all live on that big river in Egypt...
Oh yeah i forgot to heed your warning....yeah get out get out.....:rolleyes:


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