On the other hand, I'd be glad to see every pilot make $100k. Don't kid yourself into a pilot vs. pilot mentality. It's management pulling the strings. The sooner we forget that, the easier it is to become the puppets.

 

Every airline has jerks...especially on the internet.

Lets be civil and move on. I honestly wish Envoy the best of luck in their negotiations and that things improve.

 

I just don't see a lot of union emails being pasted on APC from other regionals is all. I think it more appropriate for a private forum. Just my opinion I guess.

 

I agree with you. I'm just saying not everyone wants to see you burn just to get a few airplanes.

 

Well, all I know is that you frequent the PSA thread and talk crap constantly. And that's your prerogative and no one will stop you. But life's just too short. If you are that unhappy with the way your career is turning out, then make a new one. This is my 3rd career. Better and worse than my previous 2 in different ways. I have no illusions about being a regional pilot, it's all a roll of the dice. EVERY pilot should have back-up plans in case things don't turn out the way they want. And besides, your anger is basically directed at about 300 of our now 1,000+ pilot group. And many of those original 300 are not even at PSA anymore. As unfortunate as it may seem to you, many new hires don't have a clue about what has happened to Envoy. Those of us who do certainly feel for you. And it is completely unprofessional for those in our ranks to go around saying hurtful things.

 

242 actually. I'd guess about 60 of which are no longer with PSA.

 

It has very little to do with me. I am a 60 something lifer who has made his peace in life; though it would have been great to see the big leagues, I've had a good career here with a great quality of life and income.

Where my anger comes from is how bad I feel for my FOs. They have had it rough here at Eagle. Much harder than I ever did. It is hard to think this career can be anything but fair when I see my 7 year FOs suffering while some kid is going to be in the left seat at PSA in a year. It burns.
I have never agreed, and probably never will, with the reasoning behind PSA yes voters. Let us not rehash that here, again. That being said, wounds heal if you let them.

 

That is appreciated. I'll try not to generalize.

 

Aww, I knew we had something going.

It was Tom Brady wasn't it?

 

Excuse me if my remark is completely out of place, but why in the world would AAG be trying to invest so much in what they just destroyed? They took down an airline's entire identity, going from 6 bases down to soon to be 2 bases, and completely stripping their fleet down eventually only two types of Embraers. Did they go too far with Envoy, and now their whipsaw is working a little bit too hard that they realize they still need to keep Envoy alive a little longer? PSA, and PDT can't grow fast enough, and Envoy was a large part of their feed that they've been unsuccessfully trying to transfer to other carriers fast enough. Why in the world would they invest so much in what they just literally divested? It seems completely against financial sense, it seems to almost cancel out the entire whipsaw effect they have been trying to create in order to generate revenue. Feel free to correct my wondering. It just seems insane to me to try and rebuild something they have almost completely destroyed...

I really hope the best for those at Eagle (Envoy). I have a few friends working there, and they have families they're trying to take care of, and all this craziness has had a large effect on their future with the company.