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03-01-2015 | 07:06 AM
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It's simple--Kirby and Parker had a plan when they took over, and everything that has happened has simply been their attempts to make that plan work. There is no need to build a digestible story with moral arcs.
The plan was to massively shrink Eagle/Envoy, diversify the feed, and lock in the whole cheap-labor regional system for the long term before it could break down (decade-long contracts). They wanted to define a career path that starts with being a severely underpaid regional pilot, so that new pilots are funneled in at the bottom instead of the middle and AA keeps a steady supply of labor (flow). And they wanted to solve the problem, from their perspective, of "overpaid" long-term regional pilots not by guaranteeing career progression but by simply capping pay at an "acceptable" longevity.
All of these things are now accomplished. They have everything they want, and for the long term. So if it takes some "investment" now to keep everything well-oiled and humming along, they are perfectly willing to do that. But don't try to assign them sentiments as if they're now "realizing they went too far" or "rewarding us" or trying to "bury the hatchet". They're not throwing money at something they destroyed, they're investing in a system they created. Everything, from their perspective, went exactly according to plan. If you hate the regional model, this should make you very angry. But, as it turns out, a strong majority are totally fine with it. Is what it is.
03-01-2015 | 07:18 AM
#63
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No. I understand that there's a strong psychological urge to build this narrative, but it's ridiculous.
It's simple--Kirby and Parker had a plan when they took over, and everything that has happened has simply been their attempts to make that plan work. There is no need to build a digestible story with moral arcs.
The plan was to massively shrink Eagle/Envoy, diversify the feed, and lock in the whole cheap-labor regional system for the long term before it could break down (decade-long contracts). They wanted to define a career path that starts with being a severely underpaid regional pilot, so that new pilots are funneled in at the bottom instead of the middle and AA keeps a steady supply of labor (flow). And they wanted to solve the problem, from their perspective, of "overpaid" long-term regional pilots not by guaranteeing career progression but by simply capping pay at an "acceptable" longevity.
All of these things are now accomplished. They have everything they want, and for the long term. So if it takes some "investment" now to keep everything well-oiled and humming along, they are perfectly willing to do that. But don't try to assign them sentiments as if they're now "realizing they went too far" or "rewarding us" or trying to "bury the hatchet". They're not throwing money at something they destroyed, they're investing in a system they created. Everything, from their perspective, went exactly according to plan. If you hate the regional model, this should make you very angry. But, as it turns out, a strong majority are totally fine with it. Is what it is.
It's simple--Kirby and Parker had a plan when they took over, and everything that has happened has simply been their attempts to make that plan work. There is no need to build a digestible story with moral arcs.
The plan was to massively shrink Eagle/Envoy, diversify the feed, and lock in the whole cheap-labor regional system for the long term before it could break down (decade-long contracts). They wanted to define a career path that starts with being a severely underpaid regional pilot, so that new pilots are funneled in at the bottom instead of the middle and AA keeps a steady supply of labor (flow). And they wanted to solve the problem, from their perspective, of "overpaid" long-term regional pilots not by guaranteeing career progression but by simply capping pay at an "acceptable" longevity.
All of these things are now accomplished. They have everything they want, and for the long term. So if it takes some "investment" now to keep everything well-oiled and humming along, they are perfectly willing to do that. But don't try to assign them sentiments as if they're now "realizing they went too far" or "rewarding us" or trying to "bury the hatchet". They're not throwing money at something they destroyed, they're investing in a system they created. Everything, from their perspective, went exactly according to plan. If you hate the regional model, this should make you very angry. But, as it turns out, a strong majority are totally fine with it. Is what it is.
03-01-2015 | 08:15 PM
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No. I understand that there's a strong psychological urge to build this narrative, but it's ridiculous.
It's simple--Kirby and Parker had a plan when they took over, and everything that has happened has simply been their attempts to make that plan work. There is no need to build a digestible story with moral arcs.
The plan was to massively shrink Eagle/Envoy, diversify the feed, and lock in the whole cheap-labor regional system for the long term before it could break down (decade-long contracts). They wanted to define a career path that starts with being a severely underpaid regional pilot, so that new pilots are funneled in at the bottom instead of the middle and AA keeps a steady supply of labor (flow). And they wanted to solve the problem, from their perspective, of "overpaid" long-term regional pilots not by guaranteeing career progression but by simply capping pay at an "acceptable" longevity.
All of these things are now accomplished. They have everything they want, and for the long term. So if it takes some "investment" now to keep everything well-oiled and humming along, they are perfectly willing to do that. But don't try to assign them sentiments as if they're now "realizing they went too far" or "rewarding us" or trying to "bury the hatchet". They're not throwing money at something they destroyed, they're investing in a system they created. Everything, from their perspective, went exactly according to plan. If you hate the regional model, this should make you very angry. But, as it turns out, a strong majority are totally fine with it. Is what it is.
It's simple--Kirby and Parker had a plan when they took over, and everything that has happened has simply been their attempts to make that plan work. There is no need to build a digestible story with moral arcs.
The plan was to massively shrink Eagle/Envoy, diversify the feed, and lock in the whole cheap-labor regional system for the long term before it could break down (decade-long contracts). They wanted to define a career path that starts with being a severely underpaid regional pilot, so that new pilots are funneled in at the bottom instead of the middle and AA keeps a steady supply of labor (flow). And they wanted to solve the problem, from their perspective, of "overpaid" long-term regional pilots not by guaranteeing career progression but by simply capping pay at an "acceptable" longevity.
All of these things are now accomplished. They have everything they want, and for the long term. So if it takes some "investment" now to keep everything well-oiled and humming along, they are perfectly willing to do that. But don't try to assign them sentiments as if they're now "realizing they went too far" or "rewarding us" or trying to "bury the hatchet". They're not throwing money at something they destroyed, they're investing in a system they created. Everything, from their perspective, went exactly according to plan. If you hate the regional model, this should make you very angry. But, as it turns out, a strong majority are totally fine with it. Is what it is.
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