Seven month upgrade at TSA?
04-19-2015, 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
It's not rocket science. I think maybe you are projecting your own inabilities into the situation.
04-19-2015, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
Nope. Sure when things are normal, no problem. When $hit hits the fan, I wouldn't feel safe putting my family on a plane with a 2500 hr CA and a new 1500 hr FO
04-19-2015, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
Nope. Sure when things are normal, no problem. When $hit hits the fan, I wouldn't feel safe putting my family on a plane with a 2500 hr CA and a new 1500 hr FO
04-19-2015, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
So do you advocate the FAA changing the rules to only allow an ATP at 3000 hours or some other higher number?
04-19-2015, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Hou757
So just what do you (certain) TSA'rs that think you are the know it all's think a safe amount of hours is for upgrade? Honest question...
New pilots are Nancy's.
04-19-2015, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Hou757
So just what do you (certain) TSA'rs that think you are the know it all's think a safe amount of hours is for upgrade? Honest question...
Being a good Captain isn't so much the amount of time you have. It's decision making, leadership qualities. Some people have it, others don't. The ability to make safety conscious decisions is engrained in each individual. Like I said if you don't have it at 500, 1000, etc, you will never have it. You don't have to know everything on every page of every manual. You need to know where to locate information should it need to be located, involve others in your decisions, know who to call if neither of you can come to a decision, and at the end of it all know the final decision comes down on you. You either get it or you don't. It's merely that simple.
04-19-2015, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by MavAv8r
If you have over 1000 Hours in the airplane and you aren't ready to upgrade, whats another 500 going to do? As a 1500hr CFI that puts you at around 3000.
Being a good Captain isn't so much the amount of time you have. It's decision making, leadership qualities. Some people have it, others don't. The ability to make safety conscious decisions is engrained in each individual. Like I said if you don't have it at 500, 1000, etc, you will never have it. You don't have to know everything on every page of every manual. You need to know where to locate information should it need to be located, involve others in your decisions, know who to call if neither of you can come to a decision, and at the end of it all know the final decision comes down on you. You either get it or you don't. It's merely that simple.
Being a good Captain isn't so much the amount of time you have. It's decision making, leadership qualities. Some people have it, others don't. The ability to make safety conscious decisions is engrained in each individual. Like I said if you don't have it at 500, 1000, etc, you will never have it. You don't have to know everything on every page of every manual. You need to know where to locate information should it need to be located, involve others in your decisions, know who to call if neither of you can come to a decision, and at the end of it all know the final decision comes down on you. You either get it or you don't. It's merely that simple.
I disagree 100% with the bold part. Do you honestly thing that a 500hr FO (2000TT) is ready to be a CA?
04-20-2015, 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by MavAv8r
If you have over 1000 Hours in the airplane and you aren't ready to upgrade, whats another 500 going to do? As a 1500hr CFI that puts you at around 3000.
Being a good Captain isn't so much the amount of time you have. It's decision making, leadership qualities. Some people have it, others don't. The ability to make safety conscious decisions is engrained in each individual. Like I said if you don't have it at 500, 1000, etc, you will never have it. You don't have to know everything on every page of every manual. You need to know where to locate information should it need to be located, involve others in your decisions, know who to call if neither of you can come to a decision, and at the end of it all know the final decision comes down on you. You either get it or you don't. It's merely that simple.
Being a good Captain isn't so much the amount of time you have. It's decision making, leadership qualities. Some people have it, others don't. The ability to make safety conscious decisions is engrained in each individual. Like I said if you don't have it at 500, 1000, etc, you will never have it. You don't have to know everything on every page of every manual. You need to know where to locate information should it need to be located, involve others in your decisions, know who to call if neither of you can come to a decision, and at the end of it all know the final decision comes down on you. You either get it or you don't. It's merely that simple.
04-20-2015, 03:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Senior Skipper
I think you're over simplifying it. Nobody ever said you need to have 6000 SIC before you upgrade. However, there is a difference between 500, 1000 and 2000 right? The guy with 500 has been on the line a few months. The one with 2000hrs has had to deice a few times in the winter, and has had to figure out how to get a jumpseater on in the summer.
I disagree 100% with the bold part. Do you honestly thing that a 500hr FO (2000TT) is ready to be a CA?
I disagree 100% with the bold part. Do you honestly thing that a 500hr FO (2000TT) is ready to be a CA?
As far as hours are concerned, you should be able to competently fly the airplane after 500 hours. I guess I should have put a time stamp on it. I'd say 12 months. If you've done something for a year straight and been through a re current, and you don't possess the skills, decision making, etc to take a leadership role..you haven't been doing it right. 12 months is plenty of time to get comfortable with both the airplane and company's procedures.
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