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Old 04-21-2015 | 08:30 AM
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So here's your choice:
FACT
Endeavor: Bankruptcy contract.
Republic: 10 year old contract with poor work rules and pay rates.
Air Wisconsin: Industry leading contract, and pay rates.
Old 04-21-2015 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Rama04
So here's your choice:
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Endeavor: Bankruptcy contract.
Republic: 10 year old contract with poor work rules and pay rates.
Air Wisconsin: Industry leading contract, and pay rates.
And that is proof of the set path they are on into the definite future? Give me a break. If you wanna knock Endeavor, be my guest, but you are using arguments so weak, they're really just crap arguments. And saying EDV=RAH is smoking dope! Don't me wrong, I'd love for the RAH pilots to get fair treatment, but reality is they are not...not in their contract and not from management.
Old 04-21-2015 | 12:24 PM
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you are using arguments so weak, they're really just crap arguments. And saying EDV=RAH is smoking dope!
1.) If you consider FACTS weak, you need a reality check. Not me!
2.) I never said endeavor is equal to republic. So I'll invite you to Reread my post.
Other than that, I agree! Everybody deserve a good contract and fair treatment. Going to either republic or endeavor isn't going to get you that...
Old 04-21-2015 | 01:41 PM
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1.) If you consider FACTS weak, you need a reality check. Not me!
2.) I never said endeavor is equal to republic. So I'll invite you to Reread my post.
Other than that, I agree! Everybody deserve a good contract and fair treatment. Going to either republic or endeavor isn't going to get you that...
Oh, I did re-read your post...all I can say is 'you say potato and I say patatoh'...you basically did make the equivocation. Enough of your semantics and including certain facts while excluding others. You could be a major news outlet.
Old 04-21-2015 | 05:44 PM
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Oh, I did re-read your post...all I can say is 'you say potato and I say patatoh'...you basically did make the equivocation. Enough of your semantics and including certain facts while excluding others. You could be a major news outlet.
And if you payed attention, didn't disregard FACTS and didn't make false statements, you wouldn't have to resort to personal attacts.
Old 04-21-2015 | 05:57 PM
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And if you payed attention, didn't disregard FACTS and didn't make false statements, you wouldn't have to resort to personal attacts.
Good gravy, do you ever not capitlize "facts"?? It's as if you need to say it more forcefully so others will believe you have solid information and support for your arguments. Maybe you're trying to convince yourself. I stand by my statement that your *behavior* is that of questionable media: present dubious information forcefully, declare oneself learned and the authority, while all others have no valid knowledge or input...or should I say FACTS???
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Good gravy, do you ever not capitlize "facts"?? It's as if you need to say it more forcefully so others will believe you have solid information and support for your arguments. Maybe you're trying to convince yourself. I stand by my statement that your *behavior* is that of questionable media: present dubious information forcefully, declare oneself learned and the authority, while all others have no valid knowledge or input...or should I say FACTS???
Wow
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Old 04-21-2015 | 08:46 PM
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Wow
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Not to get in the middle of English 101, but where are you working these days?

If you want to utilize Endeavor facts, use them. Don't hide behind a bankruptcy contract on LOA's approaching #70 with improvements post BK.

$20k/yr per pilot?
Going up to 180/yr to DL by SSP?
At least 100 upgrades between now and December 2015?
Hiring to regrow to -200 fleet?

It's not 2011, it's not 2014. Things change, that's the regional world. I won't talk bad about other carriers, because we are supposedly posting facts, and that would be speculation beyond available contracts and known service agreements.

If you want to post facts, don't be a journalist looking for a story. Post the facts and hope that everyone applying actually does the homework and is getting info from folks on property. Every applicant may look at some things the same, but what fits "their mold" is different. The idea of "when I was there..." Is outdated once you walk off property. Heck, flica just got changed again to the pilots benefit.. That memo is either hot off the press or will be out in the next day or two. Point being, once you leave a carrier on the regional level you are no longer "in the know" and historically folks seem to knock any good news arriving after their departure. Not sure what that's all about while still talking facts.
Old 04-21-2015 | 08:59 PM
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I'll just make popcorn, watch and laugh. Have fun guys. And best of luck.
The kool aide is apparently too potent.
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I'll just make popcorn, watch and laugh. Have fun guys. And best of luck.
The kool aide is apparently too potent.
Not a very good rebuttal, you aren't going to convince anyone that you are even remotely close to speaking the truth with a reply like that.
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