If it was 15 years ago, most of you wouldn't survive in planes without GPS, TCAS, and an advanced ATC system.

 

For what purpose? You can already see who you are going to be flying on and the type of equipment when you buy your tickets. You are assuming people look out the window when they are at the airport.

 

What would it hurt? Don't think people wouldn't start noticing they aren't on a mainline airplane. Do you think anyone looks at or understands what operated by means? It's a United flight number painted in United colors. Every single person I talk to thinks that if says United on the side it's owned and operated by United.

 

And you wouldn't survive in the Dark Ages too, probably died as soon as you were born. Your point?

 

If I had a dollar for every time I watched an old school pilot program the FMS wrong or yell at the iPad or get mad at the computer, I'd be rich.

 

Don't forget that in many cases it actually is a United jet which is owned or leased by United and simply operated by the regional affiliate. United even owns the slots, the gates, sells the tickets and publishes the fancy magazine in the seat back pocket. United creates and owns the logo on the side of the plane and directly profits from the passengers it flies.

The only thing that's not United is the crews and usually the ground handling personnel...and of course the certificate. This is the very definition of union busting outsourced labor. The bizarre thing is that the unions sanctioned it and allowed it...the very thing unions are supposed to prevent.

Clearly we've come to the point where unions now work for management and not for the workers they supposedly represent. So when are pilots going to wake up and stop voting in these unions....{cough}** Jet**{cough}**blue!!

 

A union at a major is a necessity. Corporate greed inundates all of our society and the mainline airline industry is no exception. This is one of the few occupations that mandate the protections offered by a union. Otherwise all those 777 captains would be flying for CRJ rates.

I do agree with you about the outsourcing. It should have not happened, but at the time in meant more money in the pockets of pilots who I am sure are mostly retired with a huge pension. They got what they needed out of the deal though....right .

 

It's likely that JB pilots want alpa integration protections if they merge with another alpa carrier.

 

....like Virgin who also just voted in a union for very similar purposes.

 

I'm surprised more people aren't ticked off about this and that the unions aren't spending more time fighting it versus fighting management that uses it as a stall tactic.