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Old 05-05-2015 | 01:31 PM
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Hey all, I have read various threads on people bashing certain airlines training departments. I know that different regionals are attracting pilots of different abilities, however I was wondering if you could chime in with your personal experience. Who has a solid training department and who doesn't? Thanks
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Old 05-05-2015 | 01:35 PM
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envoy and Piedmont seem to have the toughest training departments. I've only ever been through envoy myself. I hear from others it is pretty tough in comparison to other regionals they have come from. There are salty old dogs in our training department. Unlike me, they live in a training world and seem to almost enjoy beating up on those that are not as "smart" as they are. That being said, there are some real good people in the department as well.
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Old 05-05-2015 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
envoy and Piedmont seem to have the toughest training departments. I've only ever been through envoy myself. I hear from others it is pretty tough in comparison to other regionals they have come from. There are salty old dogs in our training department. Unlike me, they live in a training world and seem to almost enjoy beating up on those that are not as "smart" as they are. That being said, there are some real good people in the department as well.

I've heard Skywest and Mesa have some of the better(easier to pass) training departments. Although my friends at Mesa are telling me the E175 upgrade pass rate is 50%.
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Old 05-05-2015 | 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Systemized
I've heard Skywest and Mesa have some of the better(easier to pass) training departments. Although my friends at Mesa are telling me the E175 upgrade pass rate is 50%.
Wow... I can't think of an easier A/C to fly.!!! It was hard staying awake for the 2500 hours I have flying the 175.. Awesome plane though..

Mesa must have a **** poor training dept...
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Old 05-05-2015 | 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyCrew
Wow... I can't think of an easier A/C to fly.!!! It was hard staying awake for the 2500 hours I have flying the 175.. Awesome plane though..

Mesa must have a **** poor training dept...
Or **** poor applicants
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Old 05-05-2015 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Or **** poor applicants
Yes Sir!!! That could very well be the reason..
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Old 05-05-2015 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Systemized
I've heard Skywest and Mesa have some of the better(easier to pass) training departments. Although my friends at Mesa are telling me the E175 upgrade pass rate is 50%.
Tell that to the last class that 10 failed out of training on the systems test. Skywest had a great training department because that were very selective. Now that the hiring has been taken over the failure rate is going up greatly.
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Old 05-05-2015 | 04:38 PM
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Maybe it's not the various regional training departments that are the problem? Seems to me everyone has had to "dumb" their training down to meet the current applicants needs for 20 extra sims and 300 hours of IOE!

I have been trying to figure out what has happened nowadays! NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN AIRLINE TRAINING! All of a sudden no one can pass a checkride at 1500 hrs? I am on my 3rd regional and the training still seems the same!

I was hired at Comair in 2006 with 1200 hrs and 200 multi. One out of 16 in my class didn't pass! Not long after that they dropped the mins down to 250hrs! We had alot of those guys get through training with less problems! Fast forward and now it's ATP mins an still no one can pass training for a regional airline!

I really don't get it!
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Old 05-05-2015 | 04:42 PM
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I've heard a few people are even failing the open book hazmat test at various regionals.
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Old 05-05-2015 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BitterOHFO
Maybe it's not the various regional training departments that are the problem? Seems to me everyone has had to "dumb" their training down to meet the current applicants needs for 20 extra sims and 300 hours of IOE!

I have been trying to figure out what has happened nowadays! NOTHING HAS CHANGED IN AIRLINE TRAINING! All of a sudden no one can pass a checkride at 1500 hrs? I am on my 3rd regional and the training still seems the same!

I was hired at Comair in 2006 with 1200 hrs and 200 multi. One out of 16 in my class didn't pass! Not long after that they dropped the mins down to 250hrs! We had alot of those guys get through training with less problems! Fast forward and now it's ATP mins an still no one can pass training for a regional airline!

I really don't get it!
Congratulations... Here is your free donut.. Don't overwork your brain trying to figure this one out...
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