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05-05-2015, 04:46 PM

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Geardownflaps30

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05-05-2015, 05:15 PM

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How do Envoy and PDT have tough training? Is it the attitude of the instructors or just a difficult airplane to fly?

05-05-2015, 05:21 PM

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How do Envoy and PDT have tough training? Is it the attitude of the instructors or just a difficult airplane to fly?

I think more the attitude of the IPs than anything else. Both places have super old people (like me) working in the training department. At envoy, many have lost their Medicals and haven't flown in a long long time. They live in this alter reality they think is real. We all know a box on stilts is NOT real and never will be. Generally what you have are people who are usually separated from their students by decades in age and they have been teaching and checking the plane "forever", so they are always amazed at how little us line folk know. Funny. I have been flying this jet for 10 years, and SAABs, and Jetstreams, and ATRs. Never once have I had an issue in training or ever had even an ASAP on the line. When I got to training, I still give it a 50/50 shot of having some knothead try to make me feel like an idiot.

05-05-2015, 05:24 PM

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Lvlng4Spd

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How do Envoy and PDT have tough training? Is it the attitude of the instructors or just a difficult airplane to fly?

PDT training isn't all that difficult. Most of the legend comes from years ago. There are several new instructors with significant line experience who are forging change. I have had a pleasant experience in my initial and CQ training events. My 4th event and upgrade is coming up and I am looking forward to it. Always keep studying and there are rarely issues.

05-05-2015, 08:07 PM

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PDT has done alllllll most a full 180. MK is now in charge of the Dash training and is a GREAT guy. Lots of good new instructors, upgrades etc. In years past? Good. God. BUT it's finally a new day here.

05-05-2015, 08:39 PM

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CAPTAINPCL

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Endeavor Air training is great, it has done a full 180 to since thee ol Memphis Mafia days!!!

05-05-2015, 08:57 PM

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Golden Child

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SKY XJT TSA ... Where's the good training?

05-05-2015, 09:00 PM

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Never once have I had an issue in training or ever had even an ASAP on the line.

05-05-2015, 09:00 PM

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Endeavor Air training is great, it has done a full 180 to since thee ol Memphis Mafia days!!!

Boy that is the truth... when I came over to 9E I was blown away by the attitude of the guys in the training department. It was like they were just praying that they could fail you, very vindictive environment. Now that it has shifted over to the Mesaba way of doing things , it is now actually a learning environment that is concerned with making you a safe pilot, not making sure that you memorize how many holes are in the static port. (7)