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05-12-2015 | 05:17 AM

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Any PSA bros would like to chime in on this?

Goodluck!

05-12-2015 | 05:36 AM

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PDT pays full CX pay leg by leg and 75% deadhead pay. Reserves probably see the most deadhead flights, otherwise a few here and there in our lines. Paid nap and music time

05-12-2015 | 06:14 AM

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Any PSA bros would like to chime in on this?

Goodluck!

Where is cltflyer now?

05-12-2015 | 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by FaceBiten

Block time. Isn't that an industry standard term? Do you not use that at your airline? Doors closed/parking brake off to door open. Out to in. The first time on the acars to the last time on the acars. The time that goes in your logbook. The first O to the I in OOOI. You know, block time. The only people who care about off to on is the Air Force since that's how they log. I don't think any airline pays off to on.

Depends. Some companies like AWAC pays Out to In but FAR BLOCK time is technically the time you start taxing under the aircraft's power. So at AWAC they logged the "push" time as a separate time. While seemingly complicated, it's smart because it allows full utilization out of the crews. Push time ranged for me 5-10 hours per month depending on what was going on. It's fairly significant. The out time was captured with oil pressure on one engine and nose wheel steering armed.

05-12-2015 | 07:07 AM

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XJT has full cancelation pay, min day pay, 100 percent DH, and trip rig (min 15 hours for a 4 day). I dont understand the point of 50 percent deadhead pay (if I'm on duty i want my pay) Also how are the S5 peeps fairing with the 30+ flights getting cancelled?

XJT does not have full cancelation pay. They have day guarantee. They don't get over block for the day if one flight cancels. Full cancelation pay is leg by leg.

05-12-2015 | 07:26 AM

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Mesa has a line guarantee which means all of your awarded flying is protected, but any overblock is not. Deadhead is 50%.

05-12-2015 | 07:40 AM

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XJT does not have full cancelation pay. They have day guarantee. They don't get over block for the day if one flight cancels. Full cancelation pay is leg by leg.

you get block or better, and if a trip cancels you're pay protected....

05-12-2015 | 07:40 AM

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05-12-2015 | 08:23 AM

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Some companies like AWAC pays Out to In but FAR BLOCK time is technically the time you start taxing under the aircraft's power.

I've thought about this before. Is every airline pilot's logbook significantly off because of this from a legal perspective?

05-12-2015 | 08:38 AM

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I've thought about this before. Is every airline pilot's logbook significantly off because of this from a legal perspective?

It takes about a minute to push and start an engine and begin taxiing. Maybe a few mins waiting to push during bank time in phx. That's a wash. Plenty of times I've sat waiting for a gate driver with an inop apu babysitting an engine with the pax door open. That is creditable flight time by FARs but not on the acars. But I don't add that to my logbook. The minute difference doesn't make much of a difference, especially converting block minutes to decimals. If you care that much about that minute, round down on your conversion to decimals.