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saab2000 06-23-2015 01:22 PM

Why is this so hard? When climb rate falls to <500 fpm or so and you're losing speed just tell ATC you'll need to level off. In the summer, full, on hot days (ISA +15) this will be around FL280. You can get higher with a step climb if you need to do so. Usually within a few minutes of leveling off you'll have gained plenty of speed for another 2000 or even 4000 feet.

I have nearly 10,000 hours on the CRJ-200 and we all know that CRJ stands for Climb Restricted Jet.

Our charts tell us what the airplane will climb to based on weight and ISA deviation. I usually subtract 2000 feet and say that's about it. If I need to climb higher later I can once I've regained some speed.

Why leave yourself with no options? Why give up horizontal speed just to gain altitude? The airplane flies better lower anyway.

Just my $.02 based on 11 years in the airplane in question.

Cruz5350 06-23-2015 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by saab2000 (Post 1913423)
Why is this so hard? When climb rate falls to <500 fpm or so and you're losing speed just tell ATC you'll need to level off. In the summer, full, on hot days (ISA +15) this will be around FL280. You can get higher with a step climb if you need to do so. Usually within a few minutes of leveling off you'll have gained plenty of speed for another 2000 or even 4000 feet.

I have nearly 10,000 hours on the CRJ-200 and we all know that CRJ stands for Climb Restricted Jet.

Our charts tell us what the airplane will climb to based on weight and ISA deviation. I usually subtract 2000 feet and say that's about it. If I need to climb higher later I can once I've regained some speed.

Why leave yourself with no options? Why give up horizontal speed just to gain altitude? The airplane flies better lower anyway.

Just my $.02 based on 11 years in the airplane in question.

It's really simple like you said, but some people just don't get it.

80ktsClamp 06-23-2015 01:43 PM

Cut out the insults guys.

wrxpilot 06-23-2015 01:43 PM

Yes, a SKW only thing.

DoubleD 06-23-2015 05:04 PM

Good Policy
 
Having flown the CRJ 200 for a couple thousand hours I think this policy is wise. Quite a few times our release had an alt/airspeed that was unrealistic. I would admit we were unable to ATC and press on at an altitude the RJ could do.

Wise decision.

intrepidcv11 06-23-2015 05:25 PM

Sounds like a very good reason to make more beer cans.

wrxpilot 06-23-2015 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 1913563)
No. After years of putting up with Skywest holier-than-thou elitism, this is just too friggin hilarious that this pilot group needs such baby sitting.

I find it strange you're still upset about not getting hired here... You're at Frontier now, for eff sake find some happiness and get over Skywest. F9 wouldn't hire me, and really I wish nothing but the best for you guys. Seriously.

As far as the restriction goes, I admit it's embarrassing. Hopefully it's a wake up call for those that need it, and we can continue to improve and fly safe.

DD214 06-23-2015 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by wrxpilot (Post 1913438)
Yes, a SKW only thing.

Actually it's not a OO only thing can't go into detail on a public forum but if you think this is just an OO issue you are very wrong.

wrxpilot 06-23-2015 07:16 PM


Originally Posted by DD214 (Post 1913662)
Actually it's not a OO only thing can't go into detail on a public forum but if you think this is just an OO issue you are very wrong.

I did not know that, thanks for clarifying it.

TheFly 06-23-2015 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by DENpilot (Post 1913563)
No. After years of putting up with Skywest holier-than-thou elitism, this is just too friggin hilarious that this pilot group needs such baby sitting.

So, all SkyWest pilots are like that?


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