This happened at AE a few years back. It lead to a major overhaul of the CRJ training curriculum to emphasize high altitude flight in the CRJ. The CRJ-700 is NOT a forgiving jet up high. It needs to be watched. Keep the speed up, and all is fine. Get slow (less than .74), and you're asking for BIG trouble.

I don't think you can infer much from his intentionally vague post.

I'm guessing they use something like FOQA and have been seeing a number of low speed events at high altitude. Every airline has been making operational limitations because of FOQA data.

At Republic, we can't do a nighttime visual into BTV because a Q400 guy lost situational awareness and got too close to the mountains.

One guy craps his pants and we all have to wear diapers.

All I can say is...rats. How do I post a picture to this thing?

Endeavor also has FOQA data indicating some low speed events at altitude. Seems to be a common thread with CRJs up high. We've had memos and training on high altitude stalls on it but nothing like company altitude limitation changes...yet!

It has nothing to do with the CRJ. It has everything to do with pilots that pull back power and then start reading their USA Today. altitude limits won't solve that.

It's bloody embarrassing it has come to this, the culture of 'fly the block' needs to change like yesterday. We aren't the only operator having issues but the CMO decided to make their point with us apparently. Most of us know better than to fly the ridiculous speeds the magic box spits out but a few incidents are certainly too many.

The most disturbing thing to me about this new policy is the fact that there is a list of the inattentives and that the FAA and OCC will be strictly monitoring. Those two things go against everything that is supposed to be a just culture, which enhances safety. Anything that is even perceived to be less than a just culture increases risk.

The problem from the regulatory side is that the just culture and company safety culture was supposed to prevent things getting to this level/point.

Pilots stopped picking up that trash about 3 yrs ago.

AFAIK, the events that took place were mostly 700 a few minutes after level off. The lower altitude limits will hopefully help because it widens the buffer quite a bit so hopefully the readers will catch it before it's too late.


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