$100,000 Minimum Regional First Officer
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In collective bargaining the workforce determines how the total pot gets split largely. This generally leads to inequality with the top earning disproportionate to the bottom. The easiest way to reduce payroll from the management side is toss the existing workforce a bone in exchange for a B scale, scope, work rules, etc. Companies take the long focus as to what will drive savings over years (you can amortize a B scale and project savings immediately). Work groups focus on their needs which is generally only a 20-30yr window at best and in reality focused mostly on the current contract and what is in it for them. End result is everyone on property when the contract gets signed earns, the new guys pay for it (i.e. the old paying your dues). The company gets their savings a couple years later when the new scales start to take effect or through ability to outsource work to cheaper options and it tends to be exponential as the time goes on (i.e. see current state versus 30yrs ago).
It isn't ever going to change but it is always fun to talk about.
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Delta came to us because we can staff and not cancel flights. It's why we get to charge more or in the delta case, walk away. American won't let us retire a few of our old birds because again, they need us. Just cause company A is cheaper than company B doesn't mean A gets the flying. You get what you pay for. Case in point Republic.
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Basically it got billy that multi-million dollar mainline job that he wouldn't have gotten otherwise, so he "doesn't really care" what you think. Did I get that right?
Btw, I just love hearing you guys say "I don't care what you think of us" it really helps your case!!!
Btw, I just love hearing you guys say "I don't care what you think of us" it really helps your case!!!
Sublime you got some issues dude. First get over it and the fact that you think Envoy is levitating over the other 2 WO's. Cause you're not. Your poop smells just like ours. Enjoy your 175's and your flow and PSA and PDT will enjoy the situations as well. Amazing you can allow a few airlines to absolutely ruin your day.
Maybe getting laid might help ya. Okay so I'll help you just for the record. PSA sucks! Piedmont Sucks! Envoy? Well it's everyones fault that we suck now. hahahahahahahahah
Get over it. It's becoming funny and sad at the same time.
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this is a good idea and i agree but its almost pointless to talk about it, especially in a forum like this. take a look around as skywest, republic, eagle, psa and tsa all have recently voted in more pathetic contracts. why would any airline say we need to bump pay up to something even remotely close to 100k when pilots happily say yes to 25k/year? pretty big gap that will never come close to being closed.
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Basically it got billy that multi-million dollar mainline job that he wouldn't have gotten otherwise, so he "doesn't really care" what you think. Did I get that right?
Btw, I just love hearing you guys say "I don't care what you think of us" it really helps your case!!!
Btw, I just love hearing you guys say "I don't care what you think of us" it really helps your case!!!
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Haha, you're still here? I figured you would have gone back to your moms basement to play x box! Serious question, how old are you kid? For all I know you're that smug looking tool I saw on the van at DCA that was trying his hardest to grow a beard, but instead he looked more like Joe Dirt. Classy bunch you've got over there at PSA!
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Haha, you're still here? I figured you would have gone back to your moms basement to play x box! Serious question, how old are you kid? For all I know you're that smug looking tool I saw on the van at DCA that was trying his hardest to grow a beard, but instead he looked more like Joe Dirt. Classy bunch you've got over there at PSA!
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You're calling the PSA pilot group classy after making comments like that about a pilot who you know nothing about? I have friends at Envoy and they are nothing like you. You're a disgrace to that pilot group and even as a PSA pilot I will be the first to tell people to not judge the Envoy pilot group based on you and your comments. You're not only a disgrace to them, but to the industry as well.
Awww you mad? Let's be real, you don't have any friends at envoy. You think I'm bad? You should hear some of the things the guys I fly with say about your pilot group. It would make a hooker blush.
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