Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   Regional (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/regional/)
-   -   Vote will not happen for RAH LBFO (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/regional/90235-vote-will-not-happen-rah-lbfo.html)

FlyingKat 08-26-2015 06:17 AM

One thing to keep in mind. This is not the concessionary environment of the past as it was for Endeavor. If The Reverend and his cronies make this painful, people will continue to avoid the place which will accelerate the death spiral.

Bedford has to come up with a labor agreement that will attract employees and pilots will accept. The next stage of this shortage will be regionals trying to pillage each others pilots. If you make your pilots miserable, they will have plenty of opportunities to go elsewhere.

Slick111 08-26-2015 06:24 AM

Side point: Bankruptcy would allow RAH to void *ALL* of their contracts, (not just its pilot contract). They will also be able to renegotiate higher-paying CPA's with Delta, AA, and United putting themselves in a much stronger financial position going forward.

File a sham bankruptcy, let the courts impose lower costs and higher revenues, and Rev. Bedford gets an even LARGER mansion!

GOD BLESS!!!!

SmitteyB 08-26-2015 06:31 AM


Originally Posted by Slick111 (Post 1957232)
Side point: Bankruptcy would allow RAH to void *ALL* of their contracts, (not just its pilot contract). They will also be able to renegotiate higher-paying CPA's with Delta, AA, and United putting themselves in a much stronger financial position going forward.

And why do you assume UA, AA, and DL will be willing to pay more?

Now we are into the root of the problem - the Big 3s obsession with low pilot costs and cheap cheap feed.

The bottom line is Bedford overplayed his hand, the pilots called the bluff.

pylit4lyfe 08-26-2015 06:38 AM


Originally Posted by SmitteyB (Post 1957236)
And why do you assume UA, AA, and DL will be willing to pay more?

Now we are into the root of the problem - the Big 3s obsession with low pilot costs and cheap cheap feed.

The bottom line is Bedford overplayed his hand, the pilots called the bluff.

I couldn't agree with you more! Everyone blames the regionals, but fail to see why they're pushed to operate at such low costs and minimal profit margins. It's everyone's fault, not just one group. Especially with all of the "fines" for not operating within the performance numbers of their contract, it makes it even harder to do well.

FEtoFO 08-26-2015 07:52 AM


Originally Posted by SmitteyB (Post 1957236)
And why do you assume UA, AA, and DL will be willing to pay more?

Now we are into the root of the problem - the Big 3s obsession with low pilot costs and cheap cheap feed.

The bottom line is Bedford overplayed his hand, the pilots called the bluff.

I'm thinking they would just go someplace else. American could find cheaper feed with their WOs.

Xtreme87 08-26-2015 08:17 AM

Now if only the people jumping ship from RAH wouldn't go to the places like PSA, PDT and Mesa...this would help out the industry even more. Let them rot with their 10 year garbage contracts while better paying regionals will attract the pilots which would equal more aircraft and quicker upgrades in the long run.

Ray Red 08-26-2015 08:26 AM


Originally Posted by Slick111 (Post 1957232)
Side point: Bankruptcy would allow RAH to void *ALL* of their contracts, (not just its pilot contract). They will also be able to renegotiate higher-paying CPA's with Delta, AA, and United putting themselves in a much stronger financial position going forward.

File a sham bankruptcy, let the courts impose lower costs and higher revenues, and Rev. Bedford gets an even LARGER mansion!

GOD BLESS!!!!

Not quite. They still have to go to a judge and show that they need contract relief to ensure the company is able to survive. 1113c is what it is called I believe.

RJ Pilot 08-26-2015 08:32 AM

Just ask any envoy pilot how well their first 2 NO votes went for them.


Good Luck!

snippercr 08-26-2015 08:48 AM


Originally Posted by RJ Pilot (Post 1957302)
Just ask any envoy pilot how well their first 2 NO votes went for them.


Good Luck!

You hadnt been fired at that time, had you? You were still 'ridding this puppy into the ground' then, no?

Oh wait, I forgot - you don't answer my questions. Either way...

We believe you!

Bootleg 08-26-2015 09:09 AM

.....
 
Bedford thinks he's an innovator. He'd secretly like to be known as a new frank Lorenzo. In reality he's nothing more than a class c screwup. He's fouled up every airline he's ever worked at. If I were on the board there he would be the first one fired.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 08:21 AM.


Website Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands