Whats the deal with Flows
09-16-2015 | 06:30 PM
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I hear ya! Great points made here. Would there be any stipulations with flows that prohibit someone from getting hired off the street At any of the big 3? Because I think your right, beating the flows into the seniority list would be a dream, but having a flow as an insurance policy is a good thing as well. Just wondering if one prohibits the othe?
I think a lot of people at Eagle just don't even bother so ya never know.
If your not married to an American airlines "large" base.. I would do the PIC route and go UAL-DAL.
09-16-2015 | 08:00 PM
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By sacrificing seniority what I mean is if you are going to get hired at a flow airline you will have to wait many years to get over there. Meanwhile if you go get some PIC and make the effort you could get hired off the street or DAL, UAL a lot faster. Retirements will really start to sky rocket around 2019.
Going the flow route has it's merits.. you may not get hired at all so it can be a sort of insurance policy but will sacrifice some seniority.
Since you ask about best option to AA specifically I would probably play it safe and go to a flow airline but still make the effort to get hired straight off the street. It's an individual choice though. Too many factors like where ya want to live and what not.
Going the flow route has it's merits.. you may not get hired at all so it can be a sort of insurance policy but will sacrifice some seniority.
Since you ask about best option to AA specifically I would probably play it safe and go to a flow airline but still make the effort to get hired straight off the street. It's an individual choice though. Too many factors like where ya want to live and what not.
09-17-2015 | 05:34 AM
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PSA's upgrade WAS 1.5 years. That has come to a screeching halt due to being full of low time Captains and First Officers. As each month passes, that upgrade time grows. I don't see many of those low time Captains being snatched up by the Majors when there are so many High Time Captains still competing for those jobs which to me, means that their current stagnation will continue.
09-17-2015 | 06:31 AM
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PSA's upgrade WAS 1.5 years. That has come to a screeching halt due to being full of low time Captains and First Officers. As each month passes, that upgrade time grows. I don't see many of those low time Captains being snatched up by the Majors when there are so many High Time Captains still competing for those jobs which to me, means that their current stagnation will continue.
Upgrade and getting about 1500 hrs of PIC time seems to be golden ticket.
09-17-2015 | 09:36 AM
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09-17-2015 | 09:47 AM
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Competitive times are around 3000 TPIC and 5-6,000 TT from the numbers I saw. Some had more, some less (military). The vast majority of those being hired are still regional CAs, with some FOs from places like Endeavor, ASA, and ExpressJet getting hired with all the other boxes checked besides 121 PIC.
09-17-2015 | 11:35 AM
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Competitive times are around 3000 TPIC and 5-6,000 TT from the numbers I saw. Some had more, some less (military). The vast majority of those being hired are still regional CAs, with some FOs from places like Endeavor, ASA, and ExpressJet getting hired with all the other boxes checked besides 121 PIC.
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09-17-2015 | 11:43 AM
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Competitive times are around 3000 TPIC and 5-6,000 TT from the numbers I saw. Some had more, some less (military). The vast majority of those being hired are still regional CAs, with some FOs from places like Endeavor, ASA, and ExpressJet getting hired with all the other boxes checked besides 121 PIC.
5-6000 hours and 3000 PIC is at least 6-8 years at a regional.
09-17-2015 | 11:58 AM
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These numbers will come down a LOT over the next decade.
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