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Old 09-14-2015 | 05:28 AM
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I could see a merger that pushes flow back a decade.
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Old 09-14-2015 | 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchtrim
I could see a merger that pushes flow back a decade.
Get your eyes checked
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Old 09-14-2015 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchtrim
I could see a merger that pushes flow back a decade.
Not happening. This would adversely affect wholly-owned recruiting and that is the last thing they want. Any merger would include the appropriate number of flow positions in the combined contract to keep the flow moving.
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Old 09-14-2015 | 06:21 AM
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So if there is in fact a merger with PDT and envoy, would that mean the PDT pilots would lose their spot in the flow and be blended in with all the envoy people?
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Old 09-14-2015 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by waker92
So if there is in fact a merger with PDT and envoy, would that mean the PDT pilots would lose their spot in the flow and be blended in with all the envoy people?
First, even after a merger...which is still unlikely to happen...it would take some time for a joint agreement to be put in place. Flow continues at each carrier as before. Then, once outlined you would see something that would give the same relative flow time to a pilot on either team. It really isn't worth worrying about.
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Old 09-14-2015 | 06:34 AM
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Yeah I dunno. They'd still attract guys with the flow carrot but slow it down to keep their cheap feed flying. Once of course they have pdt fully staffed.
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Old 09-14-2015 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by waker92
So if there is in fact a merger with PDT and envoy, would that mean the PDT pilots would lose their spot in the flow and be blended in with all the envoy people?
Regardless of flow, Parker would never merge envoy, PSA, or PDT. He is all about the divide and conquer whipsaw game. When you watch him talk about the regional carriers during the townhall meetings he is very proud of his ability to pit the regional carriers against each other. Not just in compensation but on performance matters as well. Maybe if AAG bought another carrier, I could maybe see him merge PDT with them but even then, I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't and kept it at 4 wholly owned.
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Old 09-14-2015 | 06:36 AM
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Nope. There is a very clear plan for AA's wholly owned regionals. 3 airlines. Similar contracts. Similar flow. They are betting on the 3 airlines for their staffing future.
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Old 09-14-2015 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by eaglefly
I have read Bloch's ruling several times and know more about that agreement then you could ever learn. If YOU had any comprehension skills, you'd note I refrenced Letter 3. Additionally, I never questioned the 824, but pilots after that who don't even HAVE any arbitral weight by award and are thus at the whim of whatever circumstances develop in the future for Envoy. Remember (well, that's probably expecting too much), the question was about if a flow-thru could be stripped and it has.........right here at Envoy in 2008.

Is this you 665 ?

If so, flip yourself back to heads. You at least made sense some of the time on that side of the coin.

This side is a complete disaster.
Would the real Cujo please stand up?
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Old 09-14-2015 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by waker92
So if there is in fact a merger with PDT and envoy, would that mean the PDT pilots would lose their spot in the flow and be blended in with all the envoy people?
uh oh!!!!! wait that can't happen. Or can it......

Don't you guys worry about that at all. Worst case scenario PDT flow gets pushed back only a year or two so the expensive 824 over at Envoy can go first. Just be patient, there is plenty for everyone.
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