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AxlF16 09-22-2015 09:30 AM
Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1976632)
"Pilot was coming in 10 knots faster then he should have been [on arrival into Lubbock], co-pilot then radioed tower and told them, which started argument in cockpit as they landed."

I'd believe the scenario where the FO said go around for missing the gate criteria, the CA did not go around, and now you've got an issue.
Wait...I've flown with that captain at United:eek:

John Carr 09-22-2015 09:30 AM
Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1976632)
"Pilot was coming in 10 knots faster then he should have been [on arrival into Lubbock], co-pilot then radioed tower and told them, which started argument in cockpit as they landed."

I'd believe the scenario where the FO said go around for missing the gate criteria, the CA did not go around, and now you've got an issue.
Assuming what you read was true............

Especially from a "blog" reader.

AxlF16 09-22-2015 09:30 AM
Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1976624)
Of course, the exact opposite, or something completely different could be true also. Gotta love the web, once Entered, it must be accurate!
It HAS to be true...because some of the people commenting on the blog say they have intimate knowledge of the events...and some even KNOW the people involved:rolleyes:

AxlF16 09-22-2015 09:33 AM
Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 1976637)
Assuming what you read was true............

Especially from a "blog" reader.
Tell us all what you know please. Can you give us at least ONE other hypothetical situation that makes sense? Or do you think speculation should be verboten here? You seem awful touchy about this...you ok??

APC225 09-22-2015 09:34 AM
Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 1976637)
Assuming what you read was true............
Oh yea, lots of assumptions. But when the spokesman talks about a pilot altercation but short of fisticuffs without any other details, they invite that.

DCA A321 FO 09-22-2015 09:41 AM
Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1976634)
On the 727, if you weren't coming in 10 knots fast, you had an issue.

The good old days.:)
On the DC-9 you added 10 for the wife, 10 for the ex wife, and 10 for the kids.

Maybe some suit behind a desk wrote in their manual that if you are +10 go around.

John Carr 09-22-2015 09:46 AM
Originally Posted by APC225 (Post 1976642)
Oh yea, lots of assumptions. But when the spokesman talks about a pilot altercation but short of fisticuffs without any other details, they invite that.
Assumptions, all too true.

A spokesman for ExpressJet, the regional carrier that operated the plane, said Monday reports indicated that police were called. Airport police did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment.
But sadly, you can get the police called to a plane for just about ANYTHING.

Who can ACTUALLY validate that it EVER got close to "fisticuffs"?

ALL you have is this;

There was no fight ... there was no physical altercation thankfully
AGAIN, pilots can be a funny breed.......

I'm NOT defending ANYTHING that happened. Simply pointing out how dumbed down society (NOT YOU) has become for taking things on the internwtz and face value.

AxlF16 09-22-2015 09:47 AM
Originally Posted by DCA A321 FO (Post 1976647)
On the DC-9 you added 10 for the wife, 10 for the ex wife, and 10 for the kids.

Maybe some suit behind a desk wrote in their manual that if you are +10 go around.
I read it as 10knots over the stabilized approach criteria. Of course I'm only speculating:D

APC225 09-22-2015 10:30 AM
Originally Posted by John Carr (Post 1976648)
Assumptions, all too true.

But sadly, you can get the police called to a plane for just about ANYTHING.

Who can ACTUALLY validate that it EVER got close to "fisticuffs"?

ALL you have is this;

AGAIN, pilots can be a funny breed.......

I'm NOT defending ANYTHING that happened. Simply pointing out how dumbed down society (NOT YOU) has become for taking things on the internwtz and face value.
All true. But a couple of key points are beyond the usual assumptions. The official spokesman mentioned the police being called and made the reference to (not) physical altercation. Neither were necessary comments. Really bad spokesman at the very least, trying for damage control at best.

DCA A321 FO 09-22-2015 11:09 AM
Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 1976651)
I read it as 10knots over the stabilized approach criteria. Of course I'm only speculating:D

So maybe target +20? I would have said, "yo bro, you mind slowing down," but that's just me. Obviously there is more to this story.


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