United Express pilot drama
09-22-2015 | 06:45 AM
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United Express pilot drama
Anyone have any details on this?
DALLAS (AP) -- A weekend flight on United Express was delayed for five hours in Lubbock, Texas, after the pilots got into a "disagreement" and were unavailable to fly the plane, according to the airline.
A spokesman for ExpressJet, the regional carrier that operated the plane, said Monday reports indicated that police were called. Airport police did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment.
Flight 4453 to Houston was "delayed due to crew availability," said the ExpressJet spokesman, Jarek Beem. "There was a disagreement among crew members. There was no fight ... there was no physical altercation thankfully."
DALLAS (AP) -- A weekend flight on United Express was delayed for five hours in Lubbock, Texas, after the pilots got into a "disagreement" and were unavailable to fly the plane, according to the airline.
A spokesman for ExpressJet, the regional carrier that operated the plane, said Monday reports indicated that police were called. Airport police did not immediately respond to messages seeking comment.
Flight 4453 to Houston was "delayed due to crew availability," said the ExpressJet spokesman, Jarek Beem. "There was a disagreement among crew members. There was no fight ... there was no physical altercation thankfully."
09-22-2015 | 08:18 AM
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Ha. My guess it was over the mainline jumpseater getting bumped.
If "no physical altercation" is the new standard for which to be "thankful" for regarding the cockpit crew's behavior (according to the spokesman), they have reached a new low.
If "no physical altercation" is the new standard for which to be "thankful" for regarding the cockpit crew's behavior (according to the spokesman), they have reached a new low.
09-22-2015 | 09:00 AM
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Found this on the "View From the Wing" blog.
A blog reader who was a passenger on the flight emails to share some insight:
Pilot was coming in 10 knots faster then he should have been [on arrival into Lubbock], co-pilot then radioed tower and told them, which started argument in cockpit as they landed.
Co-pilot and pilot [disembarked], we all boarded and were seated. The fight attendant proceeded with her preparation, she then announced that due to a disagreement between pilot and copilot she felt it was unsafe to fly with them, she felt our captain was unstable as did our copilot and for our protection we needed to disembark.
As I was going up the jet way [to get off the plane] our captain comes running down the jet way yelling “who told us to get off.” I was out of jet way but I could her him yelling at our flight attendant, we all waited by ticket agent stand as the last customer came out the door was closed, and 5 minutes later police arrived.
Flight attendant and co-pilot were afraid captain would do something that would put us in danger and they took a stand. We all thanked our flight attendant and the co-pilot for looking out for us.
Co-pilot and pilot [disembarked], we all boarded and were seated. The fight attendant proceeded with her preparation, she then announced that due to a disagreement between pilot and copilot she felt it was unsafe to fly with them, she felt our captain was unstable as did our copilot and for our protection we needed to disembark.
As I was going up the jet way [to get off the plane] our captain comes running down the jet way yelling “who told us to get off.” I was out of jet way but I could her him yelling at our flight attendant, we all waited by ticket agent stand as the last customer came out the door was closed, and 5 minutes later police arrived.
Flight attendant and co-pilot were afraid captain would do something that would put us in danger and they took a stand. We all thanked our flight attendant and the co-pilot for looking out for us.
09-22-2015 | 09:21 AM
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Amazing how as pilots, we all know there is ALWAYS more to the story than what gets reported right away. Especially on the fancy/fangled interwebz and the 24 hour news cycle, combined with a slow news day.
And that many of us know that it's not till investigating is done that the REAL story comes out.
Yet many of the same pilots pilots are so quick to take the initial story at face value and go with it.
09-22-2015 | 09:27 AM
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"Pilot was coming in 10 knots faster then he should have been [on arrival into Lubbock], co-pilot then radioed tower and told them, which started argument in cockpit as they landed."
I'd believe the scenario where the FO said go around for missing the gate criteria, the CA did not go around, and now you've got an issue.
I'd believe the scenario where the FO said go around for missing the gate criteria, the CA did not go around, and now you've got an issue.
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