United Express pilot drama
09-22-2015 | 11:10 AM
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All true. But a couple of key points are beyond the usual assumptions. The official spokesman mentioned the police being called and made the reference to (not) physical altercation. Neither were necessary comments. Really bad spokesman at the very least, trying for damage control at best.
But again, NOT all the facts are out. "(not) physical altercation" could simply be the spokesperson dispelling that it got ANYWHERE near, we simply DON'T KNOW. Best not to assume......
But I'm pretty sure you've been in this game a while. And ESPECIALLY in a post 9/11 environment, the cops can come for virtually NOTHING. Seen it all too many times.
As far as a "witness" or a "blogger" is concerned, it's like this;
"witnesses said they heard the jet's engines sputtering right before impact....."
"passengers said it was worst turbulence they've ever encountered, and they must have lost 10,000ft after hitting the air pocket....."
09-22-2015 | 11:15 AM
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So maybe target +20? I would have said, "yo bro, you mind slowing down," but that's just me. Obviously there is more to this story.
https://www.globalair.com/dtpp/globalair_00241ad.pdf
https://www.globalair.com/dtpp/globalair_00241ad.pdf
09-22-2015 | 11:28 AM
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Hopefully the FO just walked off while dialing the MOD, nothing to be gained by engaging a dude who "declines" a go-around call.
09-22-2015 | 11:48 AM
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What if he doesn't go around? Classic interview dilemma...and the solution is key the mike and tell tower you're going around. Now if CA Energy State continues the approach and LDG at that point you've got a problem...I can see how that would result in a personality conflict.
Hopefully the FO just walked off while dialing the MOD, nothing to be gained by engaging a dude who "declines" a go-around call.
Hopefully the FO just walked off while dialing the MOD, nothing to be gained by engaging a dude who "declines" a go-around call.
09-22-2015 | 11:50 AM
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What if he doesn't go around? Classic interview dilemma...and the solution is key the mike and tell tower you're going around. Now if CA Energy State continues the approach and LDG at that point you've got a problem...I can see how that would result in a personality conflict.
Hopefully the FO just walked off while dialing the MOD, nothing to be gained by engaging a dude who "declines" a go-around call.
Hopefully the FO just walked off while dialing the MOD, nothing to be gained by engaging a dude who "declines" a go-around call.
At least there is some good bbq in Lubbock.
09-22-2015 | 12:09 PM
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And yes, Lubbock has good food!
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09-22-2015 | 12:58 PM
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Agreed. Man nothing like getting the FA's and the passengers involved in something like this. We are all assuming that the guy was a sustained 20 over (15 being stabilized) and ignored a go-around call. We have no idea if that's what happened. But this was handled BADLY if what I'm reading is true
09-22-2015 | 01:01 PM
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The famous story at UAL comes to mind. Captain and FO are at a ball game. Having a good time with just a couple of beers. They finish and it's just after 12 hours prior to takeoff (back before we were at 8 hours). FO saying nothing to Captain about the fact that he finished his beer at 11:58 prior to push, but she decides to call the FODM and report him. Stay classy!!!!! There are easier ways to move up a number
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