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Old 12-07-2015 | 02:47 PM
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Hey guys, I'm composing an excel spreadsheet to help me compare airlines. Currently a 135 guy looking to jump to 121 side and most of the information I have already gotten from the site but I have exhausted my searches for the other information. If you guys could help me out it be much appreciated.

Endeavor : Uniform allowance, upgrade time, duty/trip rig, cancellation pay, deadhead pay, training pay,, training time short/long call

Envoy : Uniform allowance, duty/trip rig, cancellation pay, deadhead pay, training pay,, training time short/long call

PDT : Uniform allowance, duty/trip rig, cancellation pay, deadhead pay, training pay,, training time short/long call

Compass : Uniform allowance, upgrade time, duty/trip rig, cancellation pay, deadhead pay, training pay,, training time short/long call

Skywest : Uniform allowance, upgrade time, duty/trip rig, cancellation pay, deadhead pay, training pay,, training time short/long call

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Old 12-07-2015 | 02:51 PM
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I sincerely hope you are wearing asbestos undergarments...
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Old 12-07-2015 | 03:25 PM
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Willing to tell you about endeavor, but PM me. This thread is asking for a lock. Unfortunately, it'll be a select few doing a bashing, followed by fueled posts, and boom.
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Old 12-07-2015 | 03:40 PM
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Judging by the amount of effort you're personally willing to put forth in this quest I'd highly recommend Mesa. Just smash your head on the keyboard with the recruiters email in the address bar and blam-o, a class invite will be in the reply. Easy as 1-2-7, it's harder to get hired at White Castle! Isnt that kewl?
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Old 12-07-2015 | 03:52 PM
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Someone posted this a few pages back. It has a useful comparison grid.

http://www.aerocrewnews.us/acn/2015/12-ACN-Dec-2015.pdf
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Old 12-07-2015 | 06:18 PM
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PDT:

Uniform allowance: $25/mo, added as regular earnings to your paycheck.

Rigs: 4 hour "modified minimum day." For every day you are at work (0000-2359), you are paid 4.0 hours minimum credit, averaged over each trip. So, if you work a two day that paid 2.0 hours on day one and 6.0 hours on day 2, you would be paid 8.0 hours (as opposed to 4 hours for day one and 6 hours for day 2 = 10.0) Even if you sign out 1 minute into the next day (0001), it counts as 4.0 hours in the MMD calculation (assuming you were off that day. If you were already scheduled to work another trip, you don't get 4.0 for trip A and 4.0 for trip B.)

Cancellation: 100% cancellation, on a leg-for-leg basis. If a flight cancels and you do something else (ie, ferry), you get paid for the value of the cancelled leg or whatever you actually do, whichever is greater.

Deadhead: 75%. Lineholders don't do a whole lot of deadheading, in general.

Training pay: Min guarantee starting day 1 (75 hr), 12 hours per diem/day @ 1.70, double occupancy through ground, then single. AAG flight benefits starting on day 1 (no restrictions.)

Training time: ~3 weeks ground / 3 weeks sim. Currently a bit of a wait (couple weeks?) between ground and sim, but this changes constantly. Plan on ~2 months to start of SOE. They won't sit you a second longer than they have to, but the sims do become backlogged at times.

Callout: No long call. Reserve callout is 75 mins; 2 hours at airports with bussing operations (should be in PHL, but I'm not positive.) No hot/ready/airport reserve, whatever you like to call it.

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Old 12-07-2015 | 06:26 PM
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OMG...$h1t or get off the pot.
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Old 12-07-2015 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by BobJenkins
I sincerely hope you are wearing asbestos undergarments...
Honestly anything is better than 135...even.......Go.........Jets

Originally Posted by vtpilot
Someone posted this a few pages back. It has a useful comparison grid.

http://www.aerocrewnews.us/acn/2015/12-ACN-Dec-2015.pdf
Awesome. Thanks will give it a look

Originally Posted by PapaUniform
PDT:

Uniform allowance: $25/mo, added as regular earnings to your paycheck.

Rigs: 4 hour "modified minimum day." For every day you are at work (0000-2359), you are paid 4.0 hours minimum credit, averaged over each trip. So, if you work a two day that paid 2.0 hours on day one and 6.0 hours on day 2, you would be paid 8.0 hours (as opposed to 4 hours for day one and 6 hours for day 2 = 10.0) Even if you sign out 1 minute into the next day (0001), it counts as 4.0 hours in the MMD calculation (assuming you were off that day. If you were already scheduled to work another trip, you don't get 4.0 for trip A and 4.0 for trip B.)

Cancellation: 100% cancellation, on a leg-for-leg basis. If a flight cancels and you do something else (ie, ferry), you get paid for the value of the cancelled leg or whatever you actually do, whichever is greater.

Deadhead: 75%. Lineholders don't do a whole lot of deadheading, in general.

Training pay: Min guarantee starting day 1 (75 hr), 12 hours per diem/day @ 1.70, double occupancy through ground, then single. AAG flight benefits starting on day 1 (no restrictions.)

Training time: ~3 weeks ground / 3 weeks sim. Currently a bit of a wait (couple weeks?) between ground and sim, but this changes constantly. Plan on ~2 months to start of SOE. They won't sit you a second longer than they have to, but the sims do become backlogged at times.

Callout: No long call. Reserve callout is 75 mins; 2 hours at airports with bussing operations (should be in PHL, but I'm not positive.) No hot/ready/airport reserve, whatever you like to call it.
Appreciate the info
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Old 12-07-2015 | 07:09 PM
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TSA is giving a $50 gift card to Amazon.
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Old 12-08-2015 | 05:44 AM
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Originally Posted by captiano
honestly anything is better than 135...even.......go.........jets
whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa?!?!!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!!?!????!?!? !?!!?!?!!?!??!?!?!?!?!
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