Sounds like the best plan for you. You're invested in Envoy and that makes a difference. The more investment, the less likelihood of altering your present course. Now say if Jet Blue, Spirit or Frontier calls or even offers a class date, then things get a bit more complicated. If Delta or United calls, that's a no-brainer IMO. From my POV, the 2.5 claim is clearly stretching it and if that's being clearly stretched, what else should one believe ? As for the 6 year flow, IMO, it's not that that is unrealistic, it's just too far out to attach any confidence in, especially considering past history and future volatility. Way too far out. Combine the two, add the monthly repetition of such and the questions surrounding the source and as a package, I consider it what should be of minimal consideration for someone weighing their options in considering a regional carrier as a street hire and especially someone thinking of jumping present ship. Better to place more weight in more tangible components then that if you're making your first move and a lateral one. Those considerations will vary with the pilot though.

The next decade should indeed offer more for movement from regionals to LCC and legacies then in the past and that is good. However, the legacies especially can still be very choosy and seniority in the name of the game. Many present regional pilots will spend far longer in the regionals then they expect simply because the LCC's and legacies can pick and choose as their still is a good supply of regional and non-regional pilots to choose from. Some will never make the jump for any number of reasons. Luck is still a major component.

This is the most reasonable post I have seen you make. If more of your comments were like this, I would be more inclined to believe that you not on an envoy vendetta. I give this same advise to guys a fly with. I would welcome more eaglefly perspective like this.

This is the most common vibe I get from present Envoy pilots both from the forums and in-person. Of course, several management teams have come and gone there and that vibe has been in place for decades from my perception, so nothing is new. It sure seems from the outside that the same old scene is repeating itself ad nauseum there. The only difference IMO, is a band of angry leftovers from a past corrupt union fiefdom who were pushed aside and have taken it upon themselves to continue the influence of their philosophy from the sidelines, while periodically engineering various coups to regain their throne.

LOL !

He is still around ? I thought he faded into the sunset when his defamation suit flopped and he disappeared from EL. At any rate, I don't think you've picked a very good pseudo identity if credibility is your goal, at least in my opinion, but it sounds as though you are as obsessed with him as you are with me though. :cool:

Perhaps it isn't us that is the foundation that drives your delusions and obsessions but something inside yourself ?

It has always been my perspective, it's just you see what you choose to see and frequently twist yourself into a pretzel in the process. Look at some past posts and you'll see validation of some positive Envoy posts and affirmation I don't think anyone shouldn't go to Envoy. It's just I don't think they should make decisions based on dubious claims involving fuzzy math or unpredictable timelines.

Annnd, he's back. This is a classic symptom of narcissism. You are a constant from which the world revolves around.

Have a good morning. Please though, do yourself a favor. Go out today, a coffee shop, a library, interact with real people. Be nice, respect their views and opinions. Try to make them feel better about themselves for having talked with you. You owe it to yourself to do this.

....and he's back, clinging to hyper-sensitive delusion aggravating his obsession. Actually, he never left. :cool:

I consider myself a variable that simply reflects that which I encounter. You'll be pleased to note both the Gym and Starbucks are on my list today and I will respect the views and opinions of those I encounter unless they demonstrate misguided delusion or obsession toward me or (as you are prone to do on this forum with myself and others), hurl insults and generally disrespect others whose views they disagree with.

Me thinks your own narcissistic traits are resulting in you shifting your psychological situation outward so as to deny the requirement to examine yourself. Try and have a less stressful day, OK ? I feel as though you are on the precipice of a complete and total crack-up.

Time and time again? Can you cite some specific examples?

You are making the old-and tired-mistake of getting AMR and AAG confused. AMR was completely and utterly untrustworthy. Yes, that is absolutely correct.

AAG is a completely different company, with different philosophies, different strategies, all driven by a completely different management group. Everyone from AMR with any kind of decision making power is gone including but not limited to Dan Garton who scurried over to Republic.

Fact of the matter is that AAG has kept their promises. You used to work here, as you say, so have been out of the loop. This isn't AMR anymore.

Wow. Sounds like you would fight to the death for AAG management. These are the same jokers that brought you that POS contract you fly under AFTER you had already signed a bankruptcy agreement with AMR. Not sure if you realize that. I know it's hard to see the big picture when you have Stockholm Syndrome.

You seem to spend a lot of time on eagle threads for a spirit guy. Don't you guys have your own issues to worry about?