Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 2030122)

Hopefully your class is with a major airline. Go over to the major section of this forum and you'll find it's pretty rare to stumble on to a thread with these kinds of stupid blanket statements about mil guys.

That's because most guys coming out of the military have some common sense and apply it. If they've been flying single seat, they realize the crew coordination is going to be different. Since they still had crew coordination between aircraft and were highly reliant on that both during mission planning and actual flying, they usually adapt very well. Also, since the military operates a ton of crew aircraft, some pilots come out of the service quite familiar with a 2 or more person crew.

Finally, since most military guys bypass the regionals completely, the small number that these regional guys end up working with may be either problem children that couldn't get a recommendation or arrive with a chip on their shoulder. Either way, they're the exception to the rule, though you wouldn't think so listening to these guys. My guess is for every military guy who shows up and fulfills these bad stereotypes, there's an insecure civilian pilot whose looking for problems where there aren't, possibly washed out or never had a chance at a mil spot and is just happy to have a chance to criticize or validate himself. Most won't be that way, of course.

There are some new things to learn about company procedures and large civilian airports, new regs that now apply plus of course, the aircraft you're assigned to. Steep learning curve is all a matter of opinion, but it's not rocket science and not an issue for most guys who apply themselves. It's definitely easier than any military training you've done. So, you show up ready to learn and apply the same work ethic you have so far in your career. Keep an open mind, seek and take advice and be a team player. If you do that, things will work themselves out (even if you've never talked to ramp control or flown an RNAV arrival :rolleyes:). Good luck.

Originally Posted by Turtledriver (Post 2029952)

1600 hours and no ATP, and you are ready to jump in the left seat.
I want some of that stuff you are smoking.

Originally Posted by pete2800 (Post 2030073)

I'm going to go ahead and make the bold statement that legacy airlines are probably smarter than your average collection of internet forum posters.

Originally Posted by knobcrk (Post 2030068)

Yet they are first choice for the majors.

Originally Posted by knobcrk (Post 2030224)

Probably. I wasn't trying to make a negative statement. If I had my own airline I'd hire a fighter pilot before a regional prop guy too eventhough I know the regional guy has better relative experience in driving a plane from A to B.

Originally Posted by knobcrk (Post 2030069)

Exactly. I've flown with military guys and they literally fly that right seat single pilot. You can tell a thousand things are going on in their brain they just can't do them because it's not single pilot anymore, it's a crew environment. Just take a deep breath and let the airline operation happen instead of you trying to make it happen. If that makes any sense.

Originally Posted by Otterbox (Post 2030149)

As time goes on, you're likely going to see more military guys flying in the regionals thanks to increased service commitment time, and career diversification tours taking many of them out of the cockpits for their final 2-3 years of service. This has been a big trend with Navy Maritime pilots lately, and some of the AF Heavy crowd.

Originally Posted by BobJenkins (Post 2030405)

You DO realize that the majority of military pilots, particularly AF guys, have been doing CRM for a very long time in dual cockpits?