TSioux55

I'm a senior at UND and I plan on graduating this December. Now there's this 6 month internship down in Fargo, ND where you get AT LEAST 250 multi - engine SIC time flying for their Charter/Lifeflight operation. When I graduate, I'll have 300tt give or take a couple with 35 multi. If I did the internship I'd end up with roughly 550tt with 285 multi.

My question is this: Do you think airlines that require 600tt & 100multi, or airlines that require more than that (Horizon & Skywest) would even consider me because of the fact that I'd have a lot of twin time?

Any advice would be appreciated

fatmike69

Skywest won't budge one iota of their minimum time requirements. Don't know about the others.

duvie

I don't think Skywest or Horizon will budge, but I think you'd be very competitive at ASA or Eagle. You could go to one of those two airlines and build the time their you need to get to SKW or Horizon. So when you post here again you will be asking if 1000 TT with 500 jet is competitive at SKW or Horizon. Food for thought

flyflorida2001

Make sure you log it properly. You state that it is Multi-SIC. If you don't take a checkride, and the aircraft does not require a two pilot operaiton, it is NOT SIC. Depending on what kind of aircraft it is, and whether or not the guy in the left seat is an MEI it could be PIC or it could be nothing.

DMEarc

True, an old friend of mine went to interview with SKYW...he had 950TT/875 multi.

He got into the interview and they told him they couldn't continue because he didn't have the required total time.

And Multi SIC doesn't sound too appealing to the airlines.

DMEarc

How is this possible you don't meet any 135 minimums.

Go instruct.

kansas

Agreed...for the most part. The FAR's specifically state that there's no practical test required for such a thing, you just need to make sure someone checks you out and signs your logbook that you're qualified. Seems to me that most life-flight operations that I've seen are King Airs. With anything smaller than the 200, you can log PIC time for all time which you were manipulator of the controls, since they do not require a type, just a multi-commercial. Anything larger than the 200 are heavier than 12500 lbs., require a type, and are single pilot (unless you stack 10 people in a 350, which is uncomfortable but possible). In this case, you are unable to log SIC (one pilot a/c in 99% of the missions), you are unable to log PIC (no type). You could log dual received if the person is an MEI, and, according to ATP privileges set forth in 61.167a, if they are an ATP, you could still log dual received, total, multi, but no SIC. However, I wouldn't be taking an internship if it was all right seat 350 time...this is a controversial topic as far as logging goes, and who knows how your future interviewers would feel about it, because the time you log would be neither SIC or PIC. Wow, I hope you followed on that mess.

To answer your original question...In a word, yes. When I made my regional application/resume blitz, I had about 650 TT with 130 in turboprops (most as SIC 1900), and around 250 multi. As a result, I was able to get a few interviews (Air Cargo Carriers, Big Sky, Colgan, and Great Lakes) under published mins. I talked to SkyWest recruiters face-to-face...and yes, they would not budge, at least not back then. I did not apply to Eagle or ASA, but they seemed more than willing to give my resume a hard look after talking to them, as well. Two of my friends with similar experience ended up getting jobs at Air Whiskey (to which I did not apply). The multi-turbine time speaks loudly to many regionals out there...even though some may still give you the snub due to total time, it is a worthwhile experience if the time is legit.

Good luck.

BoilerUP

135 SIC. You can be flying as an SIC in a friggin' Cessna 150 under Part 135 and 100% legally log it as SIC if an SIC is required by OpSpecs and your POI signs off on it.

I do agree with you about instructing though...

TSioux55

I would preferably instruct when UND does their hiring workshop in August; this is just an idea in case that falls through. I might consider it anyway though.

Here's the job description I copied and pasted:
Responsible for assisting in the daily activities of the Fargo Jet Center's Charter/Lifeflight operations; assist in all the aspects of flight duties; aid in the loading/unloading of lifeflight patients; loggable SIC Part 135 flight time in King Air 200/C90 and Navajo; expect 250+ SIC flight hours.

Thanks guys for the input.

BigWatchPilot

Dude...you can do it. As a former UND grad...I say get the multi time. You can toss your resume to the commuters you want and build time. There are the "published" minimums and there is what they will take. If they call you in for an interview with the time stated on your resume they would not be wasting their time. As far as the "guy that was asked to leave an interview" sounds like the same guy that "didn't pass his check-ride because his paper work was not filled out right"

There is a wide range of applicants at the commuters and they will take into account what you have been doing and where you have been...they people making the decisions try to look at this thing called the "big picture."

Network...while you are in Fargo you can hang out at WMI and get more multi time when your intern is over...see you at FedEx in a few years!

Best of Luck...BWP...OUT!