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Old 01-16-2016 | 07:37 AM
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Honest question.

SkyWest started this year deicing with the flaps up and then extending them just prior to taking the runway for takeoff. Apparently there is a recommended reduction in Hold Over Time if the flaps are in the takeoff position as the fluid runs off.

My question is what other operators are doing the same thing or is it still flaps at takeoff position during deice spraying?
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Old 01-16-2016 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Complete
Honest question.

SkyWest started this year deicing with the flaps up and then extending them just prior to taking the runway for takeoff. Apparently there is a recommended reduction in Hold Over Time if the flaps are in the takeoff position as the fluid runs off.

My question is what other operators are doing the same thing or is it still flaps at takeoff position during deice spraying?
TSA does flaps up for deice but since we put flaps down during the taxi flow, our FSDO makes us use the 90% chart.
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Old 01-16-2016 | 08:04 AM
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XJT uses a qrh checklist for deicing which ultimately leads to putting flaps down after deicing.
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Old 01-16-2016 | 08:10 AM
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DE ICE- flaps down

ANTI-ICE- Flaps up

Thats the procedure at envoy as far as I can remember.

Good Luck!
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Old 01-16-2016 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by loc n slope
XJT uses a qrh checklist for deicing which ultimately leads to putting flaps down after deicing.
On the 700/900 at ExpressJet, the slats/flaps are set to take-off before deicing. Is that an ERJ thing?
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Old 01-16-2016 | 08:33 AM
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Envoy has been setting takeoff flaps prior to takeoff for a couple years now on the ERJ
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Old 01-16-2016 | 08:37 AM
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Horizon does it both ways... Depending on if you are deicing with engines running or on APU power alone.
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Old 01-16-2016 | 08:49 AM
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At PSA the recommended procedure for all CRJ's is flaps up.
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Old 01-16-2016 | 08:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Aviatrx
Envoy has been setting takeoff flaps prior to takeoff for a couple years now on the ERJ
Well I sure hope they are....hahah! I know what you meant
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Originally Posted by Aviatrx
Envoy has been setting takeoff flaps just prior to takeoff for a couple years now on the ERJ
Fixed it for you!
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