Washout rates?
02-01-2016 | 08:38 AM
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I was talking with friend this weekend who mentioned that the washout rate for new hires at his regional is on the order of 20% or so. Is this typical across regionals? What are some typical reasons?
I was suprised to hear it if only because it would seem to indicate that either the interview process was flawed or or that they are taking anyone who meets the mins and figuring it out during training/OE. I'm guessing the latter, as a 20% washout rate in any other industry would be seen as wasteful and point to an interview process in dire need of overhaul.
I was suprised to hear it if only because it would seem to indicate that either the interview process was flawed or or that they are taking anyone who meets the mins and figuring it out during training/OE. I'm guessing the latter, as a 20% washout rate in any other industry would be seen as wasteful and point to an interview process in dire need of overhaul.
Every regional will have a washouts. The interview is not a way to weed people out for the most part. It's more of a formality to see if you'll fit into company culture and if you'll play nice with others and to see if you're a semi smart guy with some airplane knowledge. Some guys just can't handle part 121 pace, they are usually the guys who are making career changes after sitting in a office for 20 years and part time instructing usually just giving the monthly BFR to crop dusters. Those are the guys that struggle. Every industry has a washouts. Mostly comes down to the attitude you wanna bring to training. Wanna goof off and party every day or do you willing to sit down and study every day like its the day before finals for 6-10 weeks?
02-01-2016 | 09:45 AM
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Every regional will have a washouts. The interview is not a way to weed people out for the most part. It's more of a formality to see if you'll fit into company culture and if you'll play nice with others and to see if you're a semi smart guy with some airplane knowledge. Some guys just can't handle part 121 pace, they are usually the guys who are making career changes after sitting in a office for 20 years and part time instructing usually just giving the monthly BFR to crop dusters. Those are the guys that struggle. Every industry has a washouts. Mostly comes down to the attitude you wanna bring to training. Wanna goof off and party every day or do you willing to sit down and study every day like its the day before finals for 6-10 weeks?
02-01-2016 | 10:06 AM
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In the past the "typical" washout rate at regionals was about 10%.
But with interviews nowdays doing little or no screening for airline pilot aptitude, 20% actually seems reasonable. I'd probably be worried if it were much less. Not all Cessna SkyGods are airline material (regional or otherwise).
But with interviews nowdays doing little or no screening for airline pilot aptitude, 20% actually seems reasonable. I'd probably be worried if it were much less. Not all Cessna SkyGods are airline material (regional or otherwise).
02-01-2016 | 10:19 AM
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I think through every training program I've been to at least 2 wash out of the class. Every time it has been those 2 that refuse to cooperate and graduate, or for some crazy reason just can't fly. I remember going through xjt we had this one guy say "well if this was a douches I could fly the hell out of it" of course he washed out and couldn't understand the automation much less the flight director, but man they gave him buku FTDs and still couldn't cut it and blamed the company for his failures and awesome bug smasher skills.
02-01-2016 | 11:03 AM
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How is that even possible? Why do companies allow that to happen. A few more hours than required fine, but by 50 hours of OE, if you don't get it, you probably aren't going to get it.
02-01-2016 | 11:06 AM
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02-01-2016 | 11:24 AM
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Yeah ironically the only guy in my class that almost washed out was the only former airline pilot in the class, and did he let everyone know that day one! My plane this my plane that. They gave us limitations to memorize for day one and when it came to him he started spitting out limitations for the plane he was previously on...I believe he had a target on his back from there on out haha. I don't think someone with no previous 121 time is at THAT much of a disadvantage. Just study and keep your mouth shut, doesn't matter where you come from.
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