Yes, it's almost as old as, "But could they beat the 95 Bulls":D

Where is your graph/data on the "whole story"? Which regional is going to put someone at a major 5 years quicker than another regional?

Quickest flow to American?
 

Upgrade times are going to be fast everywhere with the amount of people moving to the majors, and faster for those companies that can fill vacancies and stay adequately staffed. As endeavor has shown, the best way to do that right now is NOT with flow agreements, but with better pay. I don't see how that's not the whole story or how you could possibly end up staying 5 years longer at endeavor over a contact carrier


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I didn't make that one because it would be full of forecasts and assumptions that I'm not willing to make. And in this ever changing environment, it would be rather useless. I like to stick to real data. But if you would like to take a stab at that, feel free.

And I tend to strongly agree with this:

A CFI friend and I pulled this together as he is looking at his different options. I just thought I would share it for others that may also be looking to compare regionals. Its kind of nice to see all the data in one place.

It's already old data, though. I just read that ExpressJet also raised first year pay to $40/hr. Maybe we will try to keep it updated and repost as the landscape changes. It would be great to see all the options get to at least industry standard soon.

There is a 16 year flow at Envoy right now. There are 7 year FO's on Reserve at Envoy right now. How's that?

There is not a 16 year flow at Envoy right now. The projections and math have a new hire today upgrading in 2.5 years and flowing to AA in under 6. Remember, we are talking about today, not 16 years ago.

The last person to flow from Envoy was employed there for 16 years right? If that's not true, maybe its down to 15?

I can't figure out if your just a clever troll or if you are taking yourself serious?

Your projections have already been debunked... By your own pilots. In your own thread.

The sign on bonus that graph shows for Skywest is only for pilots with a type rating. Xjt has the same deal. And as of yesterday, the xjt rates are now 37, 38, and 38.

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Thanks Nevets. I'll update the graph. Not sure if I should include or not include the Skywest and Express Jet bonus then. I also heard GoJet pay increases are on the table? I don't know. I'll just make updates as I learn of them and maybe I'll post it again with changes periodically.