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Old 02-09-2007 | 06:49 AM
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You are talking straight out of your butt Skyhigh. You know nothing of aviation. You are not an instructor, you do not know how much more you learn and experience you gain from instructing. So quit talking about things you have no clue about. From reading everything you have posted on here, I guarantee I could sit down with you and you would fail my private pilot oral exam.
If you want to do your pay-for-a-job thing, go right ahead, but keep your ignorant rants to yourself. You are speaking of things you have no knowledge of.
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Old 02-09-2007 | 08:14 AM
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From reading all of these posts, I am just curious. Do people become CFI's just to uild time to go to an aorline. From reading these posts, it seems like the ONLY reason to become a flight instructor is it is a way to build hours to go to an aoirline.
Are you guys not actually interested in teaching? CFI'in is not a means to an end. It should be a passion to teach others to fly airplanes. WHat about that?It seem they dont care about helping some one realize a dream. They just want to build time.

So, if you are working with a student. The moment you get to 1000 hours, you STOP and leave. nevermind the student you are developing. You dont care about him. You got your 1000 and you are gone. WHats up withthat attitude.

Sure, I want to be an airline pilot too but if I dont it wont be the end of the world. I love teaching, and if I do make it to the airlines I will stil teach ground school to students.
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Old 02-09-2007 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by texaspilot76
You are talking straight out of your butt Skyhigh. You know nothing of aviation. You are not an instructor, you do not know how much more you learn and experience you gain from instructing. So quit talking about things you have no clue about. From reading everything you have posted on here, I guarantee I could sit down with you and you would fail my private pilot oral exam.
If you want to do your pay-for-a-job thing, go right ahead, but keep your ignorant rants to yourself. You are speaking of things you have no knowledge of.
I am a current flight instructor that is instrument and multi engine rated. I have held my certifications continuously since 1990 and have over 800 hours of instruction given in airplanes and two years as a ground instructor for a regional airline. I actually am still on the books as a current instructor for a local FBO but haven't worked as such for over a year now.

As a one time suffering CFI I can testify, from experience, that if available it is much better for many reasons to pay your way in.

I still might fail your Pvt pilot exam though, and so would most airline pilots since they don't often deal with such matters as plotting cross countries, part 91 rules and touch in go's. As I mentioned before airline and part 91 flying are very different.

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Old 02-09-2007 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by texaspilot76
You are talking straight out of your butt Skyhigh. You know nothing of aviation.
He had been in aviation for decades before he quit some time ago. I think his last job was a 757 FO. I wouldn't say he doesn't know anything; he does. But he's just very bitter and cynical even when it comes to aviation.
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Old 02-09-2007 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by N6724G
From reading all of these posts, I am just curious. Do people become CFI's just to uild time to go to an aorline. From reading these posts, it seems like the ONLY reason to become a flight instructor is it is a way to build hours to go to an aoirline.
Are you guys not actually interested in teaching? CFI'in is not a means to an end. It should be a passion to teach others to fly airplanes. WHat about that?It seem they dont care about helping some one realize a dream. They just want to build time.

So, if you are working with a student. The moment you get to 1000 hours, you STOP and leave. nevermind the student you are developing. You dont care about him. You got your 1000 and you are gone. WHats up withthat attitude.

Sure, I want to be an airline pilot too but if I dont it wont be the end of the world. I love teaching, and if I do make it to the airlines I will stil teach ground school to students.
As soon as an opportunity becomes available most (the smart ones) flight instructors shed the stench of being a CFI and run like the wind. Any time wasted beyond the minimum it takes to move on is a career detriment.

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Old 02-09-2007 | 08:39 AM
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"You know nothing of aviation. You are not an instructor, you do not know how much more you learn and experience you gain from instructing. So quit talking about things you have no clue about"

Actually, he knows a lot about aviation and was probably a CFI at one time or another.

Based on his posting history, Skyhigh's only goal at APC is to stop as many of you as possible from persuing the career. A career that he feels failed him. Whether there is any truth to his posts is irrelevant to him....he just wants you to read his stuff.

Sometimes he comes up with something at APC that is worth reading. This thread just isn't it...

Sometimes I say "newbie, read Skyhigh cause this is the worst that can happen to you and you should be aware of it". There IS value in that. As far as this thread goes, though, he's way off base.
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Old 02-09-2007 | 10:45 AM
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Thats awsome... don't sell out, get your 1000 and 100 and try to make this industry a better place
Unfortunately, you aren't really a great instructor until you get that 1000 and 100. Then, you're a good instructor for a few months, until you start banging your head against the side window, hearing yourself say "right rudder" 250 times an hour, and wondering why in the hell you are wasting your life in the right seat of a 152. But good luck with that instruction anyway
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Old 02-09-2007 | 11:39 AM
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I'm already banging my head on the window with 400 dual given.
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Old 02-09-2007 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by N6724G
From reading all of these posts, I am just curious. Do people become CFI's just to uild time to go to an aorline. From reading these posts, it seems like the ONLY reason to become a flight instructor is it is a way to build hours to go to an aoirline.
Are you guys not actually interested in teaching? CFI'in is not a means to an end. It should be a passion to teach others to fly airplanes. WHat about that?It seem they dont care about helping some one realize a dream. They just want to build time.

So, if you are working with a student. The moment you get to 1000 hours, you STOP and leave. nevermind the student you are developing. You dont care about him. You got your 1000 and you are gone. WHats up withthat attitude.

Sure, I want to be an airline pilot too but if I dont it wont be the end of the world. I love teaching, and if I do make it to the airlines I will stil teach ground school to students.

To some degree yes your correct. I became a CFI to build time. Thats why I did it. Doesn't mean I short changed my students or abandoned them. I fortunately had enough time that I was able to finish off most of my people. Others I made sure that they got handed off to another CFI and made sure their transition was as seemless as possible. I did have some students that made me want to jump out the airplane but, I also made some good lifelong friends and memories in the process.
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Old 02-09-2007 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ERJ135
To some degree yes your correct. I became a CFI to build time. Thats why I did it. Doesn't mean I short changed my students or abandoned them. I fortunately had enough time that I was able to finish off most of my people. Others I made sure that they got handed off to another CFI and made sure their transition was as seemless as possible. I did have some students that made me want to jump out the airplane but, I also made some good lifelong friends and memories in the process.
Exactly right. Ensuring quality instruction is the number one priority no matter if you are simply building time or instructing for life. Like ERJ135, I'm doing it to build time, but it is also a great learning experience too.
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