And you won't have anyone to build your wall!

 

If you're in favor of deporting aliens who are living in your country illegally, well, that's a political opinion that you are entitled to have in a free democracy.

If you're in favor of deporting US citizens or legal residents because they do not "speak English fluently", all I can say is that I sure hope most other Americans have a better basic understanding of your Constitution than you do. I am by no means a Constitutional scholar, but I'd recommend checking out Amendment XIV in particular. Don't worry, despite the Roman numerals, it's written in English...

 

I used a logical statement that precludes that I wasn't for deporting people here legally even if they can't speak English fluently.
I am however against people who come here who have no interest in assimilating into our culture.

 

You know that legally, there is no official language of the USA?

Did you also know that the USA is now the #2 country of Spanish speakers?

 

You know that legally you have to be proficient in English to become a naturalized citizen of the United Sates (minus some exceptions for older people)? So the only people who aren't required to learn English who live here are illegal aliens, and older people who naturalized after long stints of living here, and who are older. Everyone else, thru school requirements or naturalization requirements, is required (by law) at one point to learn and be proficient in English. Now, with 11 million illegals, many of whom don't speak English, and their children, who may be legal American citizens by virtue of being born here, also don't learn English until they go to school (and unfortunately some never go to school), this creates a subculture that doesn't learn English. Sure, some fill some important labor roles (many don't, however), but if they didn't have a language barrier then their opportunities would be greater.

I wouldn't move to Mexico, or France, or (enter country here) and expect to be accepted into their country/culture without learning their language and the history of their country.

 

Care to give an example of this? We live in a global economy where not everyone is going to adopt the culture and way of life that you were brought up on just because they now live in the U.S. Nor should I be expected to assimilate into the culture of whatever country I moved to should the situation ever present itself.

If you're painting this picture with as broad of a brush as it sounds like you are then you sound like nothing more then a back-woods hillbilly.

 

Lol you should go move right into Fallujah and tell ISIS you aren't assimilating. Or even to Saudi Arabia...tell them you aren't assimilating and you will drink all the booze you want because you don't agree with the Muslim culture (which happens to be their law). Or to Singapore, and tell them you are free to spit in the streets because culturally it's ok for you. Our laws exist, and other cultures and countries have laws that exist that sometimes clash with outsiders' cultures. You don't just show up somewhere, plant yourself and your culture, and live happily ever after. That is not how life works. I don't care if we have a "global economy." Cultural (and language) barriers exist within borders. And within borders there are specific laws. Another example, if you aren't convinced. In some countries, honor killings are ok. And female genital mutilation. And rape. That is culturally ok. Is it ok for them to bring that culture to America, or should they have to assimilate and obey the law of the land?

 

I'm not saying that it's right or wrong, but there are plenty of ways to move here legally without being proficient in English. Just because someone is not a citizen does not make them an illegal alien.

Now, I do agree that even though English is not the official language, it is the de facto language and not knowing English would be a bid disadvantage.

I was just trying to counter iFlyRC's post which made him sound like a hillbilly.

 

I don't disagree with your position. In fact, the degree to which newcomers to any country should assimilate is a great discussion to be enjoyed over a few beverages. Although I am very pro immigration and multiculturalism, I do think that a basic understanding of the dominant language spoken should be attempted by newcomers to a country.

With respect, if that's your position as to the english speakers, there was an error with your logic statement. Because you used the "and/or" it suggests that you would be in favor of deporting non-english speaking US citizens (which I would find problematic).

Cheers

 

If you think that my post had anything to do with saying honor killings, rape or anything of that nature are ok then I'm not even going to dignify myself with a response to you.

Not everything is as black and white as you so eloquently portrayed and there is a lot more to other cultures that don't involve ISIS, Saudi Arabia, or anything of that sort.