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Old 10-09-2016 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by No Lies
Don't you mean that Every other airline beats XJT's FO pay because anyone past 2nd year is on CA pay somewhere else while they are still on FO pay at XJT? They fail to tell anyone that their "industry leading total compensation" figures don't take into account their 10 year upgrade time.

I don't know why XJT has any FO's that are still there. There is NO sign of any upgrades in the next few years. Due to the parking of airplanes to get to the new extended CPA they just signed with United, they will have to get rid of at least 600 pilots in the next year just on the L-XJT side alone.
No, I meant what I said, and was referring to LCCs and Legacy carriers. But you're right. XJT's FO recruitment is the biggest bait and switch in the industry. Most FOs there WILL NEVER UPGRADE. But specifically, I was referring to 12+ year CAs jumping ship. First year pay sucks, but after that the sky is the limit. At my new place, I'll have the opportunity by year 2-3 to be a CA on an A320 at $170/hr and home every night, instead of maxed out below $120 at XJT, commuting to avoid reserve, and waiting for the ax to fall. Anyone who stays there and has more than 5 year to retirement is simply throwing their career away.
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Old 10-09-2016 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SydKat
No, I meant what I said, and was referring to LCCs and Legacy carriers. But you're right. XJT's FO recruitment is the biggest bait and switch in the industry. Most FOs there WILL NEVER UPGRADE. But specifically, I was referring to 12+ year CAs jumping ship. First year pay sucks, but after that the sky is the limit. At my new place, I'll have the opportunity by year 2-3 to be a CA on an A320 at $170/hr and home every night, instead of maxed out below $120 at XJT, commuting to avoid reserve, and waiting for the ax to fall. Anyone who stays there and has more than 5 year to retirement is simply throwing their career away.
I totally agree.
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Old 10-09-2016 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Jland0413
I was thinking the same...
Last time I was in recurrent they told us because it wouldn't matter if we offer a sign on bonus. We'll struggle to find pilots in the long run. In other words, they don't want to waste the money since 3-4 years everyone will be hurting for pilots...
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Old 10-09-2016 | 09:09 PM
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I'm sure it's doing wonders for pilot hiring when an interviewee shows up at A-Tech these days for their "old fashioned" interview in ATL and sees a CR2 getting gutted behind the hanger while two more CR2s with the DL Connection titles removed sit nearby, awaiting their fate.

But hey, it is the "Smart Choice" after all!!
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Old 11-22-2016 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by wmupilot85
And upgrade time is falling.
How much has the upgrade time fallen? What is the Jr CA at XJT?
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Old 11-22-2016 | 08:42 AM
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Most recent vacancy had 6 upgrades (if I counted right). DOH 5/14/2007
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Old 11-22-2016 | 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Arliss
Most recent vacancy had 6 upgrades (if I counted right). DOH 5/14/2007
Basically 10 years ......😕😔
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Old 11-25-2016 | 12:37 PM
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Something to keep in mind about upgrade: XJT barely hired any pilots between end of 2007 and 2011. Once they finish upgrading 2007 hires upgrade time will drop. How much will it drop? I can't sit here and confirm it will drop 4 years because its a regional and nothing is predictable. But its something to think about.
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Old 11-25-2016 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by AceyCandler
I'm sure it's doing wonders for pilot hiring when an interviewee shows up at A-Tech these days for their "old fashioned" interview in ATL and sees a CR2 getting gutted behind the hanger while two more CR2s with the DL Connection titles removed sit nearby, awaiting their fate.

But hey, it is the "Smart Choice" after all!!
Just wondering, with everything I have been reading on past posts, anyone know on average how many folks are you getting to show up for interviews? And then showing up for class?
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Old 11-25-2016 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by New Guy 007
Just wondering, with everything I have been reading on past posts, anyone know on average how many folks are you getting to show up for interviews? And then showing up for class?


Cannot answer about total interviewed but my current class has 10. There are 6 in the class ahead of my and 6 in the class behind mine.


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