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Old 10-27-2016 | 09:41 AM
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Question is where was his Captain? He should of never made it to the airport, good job looking after your crew.....
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Old 10-27-2016 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Day4mx
Could have happened to anyone? Uhh...pretty sure that won't happen to 99.9995% of us on overnights. And its not something that "happened" "to" him. It was something he did. Getting mugged while walking back to the hotel from the grocery store happens to you. Getting drunk, Breaking into a fire chiefs car while naked with a hard on in the middle of the woods doesn't happen to you.
Kinda have to agree.

Wearing a polka dot tie with a pin stripe shirt, that's a dumb mistake.

But watch/flipflops guy did is the dumb stuff you're supposed to get out of your system in high school/college.

But sadly, as mentioned, it simply doesn't matter since he was hired at DAL.

Along with pilots that got DUI's AFTER their college days while serving as a crew member flying Delta's passengers around on a DelCon carrer, arrested and charged with felonies AFTER their college days, etc etc etc........
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Old 10-27-2016 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Squallrider
Ppl are jumping to the conclusion that he's a alcoholic, he might just have had too much of a good time that night
If he wants to keep his job/career, he'd better be an alcoholic. HIMS doesn't work for one-time bad judgement, you have to have a sustained issue.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 09:53 AM
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If he wants to keep his job/career, he'd better be an alcoholic. HIMS doesn't work for one-time bad judgement, you have to have a sustained issue.
I don't think keeping his job is on the table now. As for career? He's probably done, certainly on the career track he was on.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by mike734
I don't think keeping his job is on the table now. As for career? He's probably done, certainly on the career track he was on.
HIMS will bring him back, if he has a substance problem.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wiz5422
Question is where was his Captain? He should of never made it to the airport, good job looking after your crew.....
Aren't you a holier than thou type. Maybe his captain was checking the weather for the day maybe the captain was talking to their spouse on the phone, perhaps they were still waking up because it was early in the morning. Throwing the stone in a glass house.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
HIMS will bring him back, if he has a substance problem.
HIMS is not a get out of jail card like an ASAP. This is now a criminal act. It doesn't work that way.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
You make it sound like he should never be given another chance?
You make it sound like he should be able to walk scot-free.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 10:50 AM
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I don't really want to comment on this particular individual, what happened was unfortunate and hope he gets some serious help. Anyways.....

Aren't some of the cargo companies 24 hours bottle to throttle? Heard that from two separate people lately. Just curious. Sadly, if the pilot group can't come together to help people like this out ahead of time, that's exactly what it will come down to before you know it-especially how the media blows things out of proportion this day in age in regards to aviation. Do I think it should be 24 hours, no, but I feel like I know where this is going....
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Old 10-27-2016 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BigDukeSix
HIMS is not a get out of jail card like an ASAP. This is now a criminal act. It doesn't work that way.
Completion of HIMS has gotten people their certificates and jobs back.

At SKW HIMS will likely allow him to return to his original seniority, if he completes the program and gets his medical back. Assuming this is even a HIMS case. Certainly no guarantees though.

But HIMS works much. much better if you get into it before getting caught.

HIMS at other airlines may be different.
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