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Old 10-27-2016 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
It is "you're", as in you are. Welcome back nevets, and watch the name calling.



You are welcome, coat tail rider. And I never left. Now go ahead and tell daddy on me. I'll still be here anyway.

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Old 10-27-2016 | 01:40 PM
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The solution to this is quite clear. Instruct TSA to not get too close and start sniffing around crew members. Then we won't have this problem anymore.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DarkSideMoon
Exactly. I'm very early on in my career. I posed this question to some of my friends last year in flight school right before we graduated and almost all of them were "throw them under the bus, call the cops". With the standards dropping at the regionals I don't think it'll be long before that line of thinking becomes standard.
Yeah, this is why we have a very growing prison population. Sure they ended up in jail, but when released look at the stats on them returning because they were not properly rehabilitated while in jail so they're gonna do it again. Or given the resources or role models to not do this in the first place. Look out for your fellow man. Yeah for a lot of people now, sorry you have to deal with some real stuff, embarrassing, and stressful. But would you rather have an awkward moment, deal with scheduling and say we are short a pilot or be under the scrutiny of the police too since you flew with a intoxcates pilot. You are held equally responsible if chalk out. Have the convo. If you can't approach someone and say you're concerned about their well being that also directly involved you. Then this industry isn't for you. Get them to call out sick before you ruin someone's life. If then they don't wanna work with you. Then they're gonna see the consequences
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Old 10-27-2016 | 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
I would get very firmly behind an initiative to cap hours at 75-80/month (you can always bid up voluntarily), and have a contractual staffing ratio. I'd go for that at the expense of raises (and bonuses tied to how well the company/industry/economy are doing).
Rickair for President!! Just having the understanding that everyone is getting worked to death is something the current prez can't comprehend. Of course, I'm sure a lot has changed since he flew the line 8 years ago. I'm sure everyone will just be happy with another 1% and a winter coat instead.

The point I was trying to make but didn't come across very clear was there is not a lot of difference between fatigue and intoxication. SW should just count themselves lucky that it is way easier to place the blame with intoxication. My feeling is that there is some type of incident waiting to happen with all the pilot pushing going on. And just like the LAX Bro jetway incident, SW will try to do everything possible to lay the blame with the pilots. PBS is a mess because of the parameters that they are forcing on it. High minimum reserve numbers which allow no schedule flexibility. People getting awarded 95 hours because min line value is 88 hours and the solution is to send an email telling people to bid smarter?

My advice to everyone is to take care of yourself and your crew. Because if you are on the wrong side of a news camera, because of fatigue or alcohol, ultimately it will come back to your decision to take a seat at the controls vs calling in.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 03:02 PM
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AA/CEO dwi Douggie Parker has 3 DWI CONVICTIONS-which in my state means you have a g@d dam felony conviction, 10 years in prison, ect

Or,

You could just become a top airline executive----party on Wayne!!






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Old 10-27-2016 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by billyho
Anxiety? Just be responsible. There's a big difference in having a few glasses of wine or a couple of beers then dropping hammer before you fly with a 6 pack and a couple of patron's.

Know your limit and if the stars are lined up perfect with the hottest chick you ever met then go for it and call out sick the next day.

Just be responsible and then you won't have any anxieties.
Put your boyfriends wine cooler back in the fridge and stop posting nonsense.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by disillusioned
Rickair for President!! Just having the understanding that everyone is getting worked to death is something the current prez can't comprehend. Of course, I'm sure a lot has changed since he flew the line 8 years ago. I'm sure everyone will just be happy with another 1% and a winter coat instead.

The point I was trying to make but didn't come across very clear was there is not a lot of difference between fatigue and intoxication. SW should just count themselves lucky that it is way easier to place the blame with intoxication. My feeling is that there is some type of incident waiting to happen with all the pilot pushing going on. And just like the LAX Bro jetway incident, SW will try to do everything possible to lay the blame with the pilots. PBS is a mess because of the parameters that they are forcing on it. High minimum reserve numbers which allow no schedule flexibility. People getting awarded 95 hours because min line value is 88 hours and the solution is to send an email telling people to bid smarter?

My advice to everyone is to take care of yourself and your crew. Because if you are on the wrong side of a news camera, because of fatigue or alcohol, ultimately it will come back to your decision to take a seat at the controls vs calling in.


Eagle used to fire people for calling in fatigued. Of course, they wouldn't come out and "admit" that was the reason, but you'd be put on a list and handled later. They pay lip service to it, but they really don't give a sh!t if you're tired or not. I'm sure the current bunch of rats running the place are cut from the same cloth.
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Old 10-27-2016 | 03:27 PM
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You can blame a whole lot of things but nobody twisted his arm and made him drink....whatever the reason.
Party-party, alcoholic, death in the family, wife left him...whatever the reason.
He and only he made the choice to show up and attempt to work.
Now my answer to an interview question has nothing to do with it as he didn't even make it to the plane.
The TSA ( bless their little hearts ) "caught" him.
Thousands of people want his job, thousands more want his career and he just threw it all away.
Same as a DUI I'm simply assuming it's not the first time.
It hardly ever is. He just got caught this time.
Yeah go ahead and flame me for riding the no-sympathy train.

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Old 10-27-2016 | 06:12 PM
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Old 10-27-2016 | 09:36 PM
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The amount of blind excuse making for this jacka@$ is befuddling. Nobody held a gun to this guy's head and forced him to get drunk enough to wreak of booze the next morning. Nobody is perfect but there's a line between honest mistake/learn from it type actions and being just flat out stupid. If you want to show up to work trashed then work somewhere where it isn't national news when you get caught. SKW and 'drunk pilot arrested' isn't a headline I enjoy seeing on news feeds. This sense of entitlement and "hey man, you don't know what he's going through, you're not perfect either" attitude is BS IMO. Let's all come together, hold hands, and send up thoughts and prayers for this pour soul that he gets the treatment he needs and can come back stronger than ever...give me a break
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