Captain base seniority
11-05-2018, 07:51 PM
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Captain base seniority
Dedicated thread for keeping track of captain base seniority trends. I'll add updates when notable changes occur.
Nov. 2018
Base (Size)
Junior DOH - Time to move up 10 spots - Time to move up 20 spots
LGA (139)
2/2016 - 5m - 1y 3m
EWR (133)
1/2016 - 1m - 4m
(most junior out of training 12/2015)
PIT (122)
10/2015 - 6m - 1y 5m
PHL (47)
10/2015 - 2y 10m - 8y 10m
Has become 10 months more junior since September, but becomes senior quickly
CMH (149)
8/2015 - 4m - 11m
Has become 5 months more junior since September
MIA (92)
6/2015 - 1y 11m - 2y 7m
DCA (123)
4/2015 - 9m - 1y 6m
IND (175)
2/2015 - 11m - 1y 8m
Has become 4 months more junior since September
MCI (58)
8/2014 - 1y 6m - 6y 8m
IAH (25)
1/2014 - 6y 8m - 12y 11m
ORD (76)
1/2013 - 5y 9m* - 6y 6m
*Some 2012 hires can be more senior to 2007 hires.
Nov. 2018
Base (Size)
Junior DOH - Time to move up 10 spots - Time to move up 20 spots
LGA (139)
2/2016 - 5m - 1y 3m
EWR (133)
1/2016 - 1m - 4m
(most junior out of training 12/2015)
PIT (122)
10/2015 - 6m - 1y 5m
PHL (47)
10/2015 - 2y 10m - 8y 10m
Has become 10 months more junior since September, but becomes senior quickly
CMH (149)
8/2015 - 4m - 11m
Has become 5 months more junior since September
MIA (92)
6/2015 - 1y 11m - 2y 7m
DCA (123)
4/2015 - 9m - 1y 6m
IND (175)
2/2015 - 11m - 1y 8m
Has become 4 months more junior since September
MCI (58)
8/2014 - 1y 6m - 6y 8m
IAH (25)
1/2014 - 6y 8m - 12y 11m
ORD (76)
1/2013 - 5y 9m* - 6y 6m
*Some 2012 hires can be more senior to 2007 hires.
11-06-2018, 04:33 AM
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Originally Posted by greendotplus10
Dedicated thread for keeping track of captain base seniority trends. I'll add updates when notable changes occur.
Nov. 2018
Base (Size)
Junior DOH - Time to move up 10 spots - Time to move up 20 spots
LGA (139)
2/2016 - 5m - 1y 3m
EWR (133)
1/2016 - 1m - 4m
(most junior out of training 12/2015)
PIT (122)
10/2015 - 6m - 1y 5m
PHL (47)
10/2015 - 2y 10m - 8y 10m
Has become 10 months more junior since September, but becomes senior quickly
CMH (149)
8/2015 - 4m - 11m
Has become 5 months more junior since September
MIA (92)
6/2015 - 1y 11m - 2y 7m
DCA (123)
4/2015 - 9m - 1y 6m
IND (175)
2/2015 - 11m - 1y 8m
Has become 4 months more junior since September
MCI (58)
8/2014 - 1y 6m - 6y 8m
IAH (25)
1/2014 - 6y 8m - 12y 11m
ORD (76)
1/2013 - 5y 9m* - 6y 6m
*Some 2012 hires can be more senior to 2007 hires.
Nov. 2018
Base (Size)
Junior DOH - Time to move up 10 spots - Time to move up 20 spots
LGA (139)
2/2016 - 5m - 1y 3m
EWR (133)
1/2016 - 1m - 4m
(most junior out of training 12/2015)
PIT (122)
10/2015 - 6m - 1y 5m
PHL (47)
10/2015 - 2y 10m - 8y 10m
Has become 10 months more junior since September, but becomes senior quickly
CMH (149)
8/2015 - 4m - 11m
Has become 5 months more junior since September
MIA (92)
6/2015 - 1y 11m - 2y 7m
DCA (123)
4/2015 - 9m - 1y 6m
IND (175)
2/2015 - 11m - 1y 8m
Has become 4 months more junior since September
MCI (58)
8/2014 - 1y 6m - 6y 8m
IAH (25)
1/2014 - 6y 8m - 12y 11m
ORD (76)
1/2013 - 5y 9m* - 6y 6m
*Some 2012 hires can be more senior to 2007 hires.
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11-09-2018, 11:22 AM
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March 2019 upgrade awards
Most junior upgrades awarded, effective March 2019
Base: Junior awarded - Difference from last bid junior awarded
LGA: SEP 2016 (just under 2y 6m) - 7m
EWR: AUG 2016 - 7m
PIT: FEB 2016 - 4m
CMH: FEB 2016 - 6m
Base: Junior awarded - Difference from last bid junior awarded
LGA: SEP 2016 (just under 2y 6m) - 7m
EWR: AUG 2016 - 7m
PIT: FEB 2016 - 4m
CMH: FEB 2016 - 6m
11-29-2018, 12:24 PM
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The November Captain vacancies closed early this month with the junior award going to someone on property 2 years, 2 months.
The December vacancies will close on Dec 5th and we should see the results a few days after that.
The December vacancies will close on Dec 5th and we should see the results a few days after that.
11-29-2018, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Random Task
The November Captain vacancies closed early this month with the junior award going to someone on property 2 years, 2 months.
The December vacancies will close on Dec 5th and we should see the results a few days after that.
The December vacancies will close on Dec 5th and we should see the results a few days after that.
The bid that closes on the 5th of every month is effective 4 months later, and upgrade training begins about 1 month before the effective date. A memo was sent out earlier in the month about the bid that closed November 5th, effective March 2nd. From this I was able to see that the junior upgrade was just shy of 2 years, 6 months (DOH to effective date).
11-29-2018, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by greendotplus10
Just to clarify, are you seeing a 2 year, 2 month upgrade from DOH to effective date, or to posted date?
The bid that closes on the 5th of every month is effective 4 months later, and upgrade training begins about 1 month before the effective date. A memo was sent out earlier in the month about the bid that closed November 5th, effective March 2nd. From this I was able to see that the junior upgrade was just shy of 2 years, 6 months (DOH to effective date).
The bid that closes on the 5th of every month is effective 4 months later, and upgrade training begins about 1 month before the effective date. A memo was sent out earlier in the month about the bid that closed November 5th, effective March 2nd. From this I was able to see that the junior upgrade was just shy of 2 years, 6 months (DOH to effective date).
12-06-2018, 07:15 PM
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December 2018 updates
Base (size): Junior DOH / 10 above most junior DOH
LGA (145): MAR 16 / JAN 16
EWR (134): FEB 16 / DEC 15
PHL (47): JAN 16 / AUG 13
PIT (122): OCT 15 / JUL 15
CMH (148): AUG 15 / APR 15
MIA (92): JUN 15 / JUL 13
DCA (121): APR 15 / JUL 14
IND (174): FEB 15 / MAR 14
MCI (58): AUG 14 / FEB 13
IAH (25): JAN 14 / MAY 07
ORD (76): don't ask
Junior lines (hard line / *possible line)
*Bidding preferences and/or pre-assigned activities may allow you to hold a line or composite line sooner. Examples: bid single days off, allow composite lines to be awarded, PDO/vacation, recurrent training, or military duty.
LGA: APR 14 / JUL 15
PIT: APR 14 / JUN 14
DCA: JAN 14 / MAY 14
EWR: OCT 13 / NOV 15
CMH: OCT 13 / DEC 14
PHL: AUG 13
IND: AUG 12 / JAN 14
MIA: APR 12 / JUN 12
IAH: MAY 11
MCI: MAR 08 / SEP 11
ORD: JAN 07
4 month base staffing trends (SEP-DEC)
LGA +6
EWR -8
PIT +9
DCA -2
CMH +3
MIA +1
PHL 0
IND +5
MCI +3
IAH 0
ORD -10
LGA (145): MAR 16 / JAN 16
EWR (134): FEB 16 / DEC 15
PHL (47): JAN 16 / AUG 13
PIT (122): OCT 15 / JUL 15
CMH (148): AUG 15 / APR 15
MIA (92): JUN 15 / JUL 13
DCA (121): APR 15 / JUL 14
IND (174): FEB 15 / MAR 14
MCI (58): AUG 14 / FEB 13
IAH (25): JAN 14 / MAY 07
ORD (76): don't ask
Junior lines (hard line / *possible line)
*Bidding preferences and/or pre-assigned activities may allow you to hold a line or composite line sooner. Examples: bid single days off, allow composite lines to be awarded, PDO/vacation, recurrent training, or military duty.
LGA: APR 14 / JUL 15
PIT: APR 14 / JUN 14
DCA: JAN 14 / MAY 14
EWR: OCT 13 / NOV 15
CMH: OCT 13 / DEC 14
PHL: AUG 13
IND: AUG 12 / JAN 14
MIA: APR 12 / JUN 12
IAH: MAY 11
MCI: MAR 08 / SEP 11
ORD: JAN 07
4 month base staffing trends (SEP-DEC)
LGA +6
EWR -8
PIT +9
DCA -2
CMH +3
MIA +1
PHL 0
IND +5
MCI +3
IAH 0
ORD -10
12-07-2018, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by greendotplus10
Base (size): Junior DOH / 10 above most junior DOH
LGA (145): MAR 16 / JAN 16
EWR (134): FEB 16 / DEC 15
PHL (47): JAN 16 / AUG 13
PIT (122): OCT 15 / JUL 15
CMH (148): AUG 15 / APR 15
MIA (92): JUN 15 / JUL 13
DCA (121): APR 15 / JUL 14
IND (174): FEB 15 / MAR 14
MCI (58): AUG 14 / FEB 13
IAH (25): JAN 14 / MAY 07
ORD (76): don't ask
Junior lines (hard line / *possible line)
*Bidding preferences and/or pre-assigned activities may allow you to hold a line or composite line sooner. Examples: bid single days off, allow composite lines to be awarded, PDO/vacation, recurrent training, or military duty.
LGA: APR 14 / JUL 15
PIT: APR 14 / JUN 14
DCA: JAN 14 / MAY 14
EWR: OCT 13 / NOV 15
CMH: OCT 13 / DEC 14
PHL: AUG 13
IND: AUG 12 / JAN 14
MIA: APR 12 / JUN 12
IAH: MAY 11
MCI: MAR 08 / SEP 11
ORD: JAN 07
4 month base staffing trends (SEP-DEC)
LGA +6
EWR -8
PIT +9
DCA -2
CMH +3
MIA +1
PHL 0
IND +5
MCI +3
IAH 0
ORD -10
LGA (145): MAR 16 / JAN 16
EWR (134): FEB 16 / DEC 15
PHL (47): JAN 16 / AUG 13
PIT (122): OCT 15 / JUL 15
CMH (148): AUG 15 / APR 15
MIA (92): JUN 15 / JUL 13
DCA (121): APR 15 / JUL 14
IND (174): FEB 15 / MAR 14
MCI (58): AUG 14 / FEB 13
IAH (25): JAN 14 / MAY 07
ORD (76): don't ask
Junior lines (hard line / *possible line)
*Bidding preferences and/or pre-assigned activities may allow you to hold a line or composite line sooner. Examples: bid single days off, allow composite lines to be awarded, PDO/vacation, recurrent training, or military duty.
LGA: APR 14 / JUL 15
PIT: APR 14 / JUN 14
DCA: JAN 14 / MAY 14
EWR: OCT 13 / NOV 15
CMH: OCT 13 / DEC 14
PHL: AUG 13
IND: AUG 12 / JAN 14
MIA: APR 12 / JUN 12
IAH: MAY 11
MCI: MAR 08 / SEP 11
ORD: JAN 07
4 month base staffing trends (SEP-DEC)
LGA +6
EWR -8
PIT +9
DCA -2
CMH +3
MIA +1
PHL 0
IND +5
MCI +3
IAH 0
ORD -10
12-09-2018, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Random Task
Via the posted date, so that individual should be a line captain by 2 yrs 6 mos.
The number is certainly coming down...just how far it will go (and if it stays there) I suppose is anyone's guess.
12-10-2018, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8
To piggyback on this with the December 2018 Awards/Seniority List now published, the most junior captain backfill award was an 11/29/2016 hire. This means that individual was awarded, for all intents and purposes, right at 2 years, meaning 2 years 3 months until they go to training, and 2 years 4 months until they're on the line.
The number is certainly coming down...just how far it will go (and if it stays there) I suppose is anyone's guess.
The number is certainly coming down...just how far it will go (and if it stays there) I suppose is anyone's guess.
I hope it stays right where it’s at...
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