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10-28-2018, 12:00 PM

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sailingfun

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This may well single the end of the heavier RJ’s.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta...2--sector.html

10-28-2018, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sailingfun

This may well single the end of the heavier RJ’s.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta...2--sector.html

The E2 doesn’t make good business for a “CPA” regional.. besides the “over weight” issue, The geared engines make for some serious MX issues. (Take a look at Spirt,with there Neo’s) the E2 gear is different and requires mor MX. And all this for fuel savings that a regional doesn’t pay for anyway.... A contract regional doesn’t have the luxury of dealing with the “teething” problems of a new type.. oh and it’s a different type rating supposedly so separate pilot group for the regular E175’s

10-28-2018, 01:10 PM

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This may well single the end of the heavier RJ’s.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/delta...2--sector.html

I hope it does... more mainline jobs. Regardless, I would like to know when/where/how our new toys are going to show up. After the advertising of the LOI (we don't need to beat a dead horse, I know it's only an LOI) things have been relatively quiet about them. It would be nice to know, good or bad, the status.

10-28-2018, 01:11 PM

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Not a separate type rating. And scope is the only real issue. Cost savings in fuel would offset added mx costs. First 175-E2 won't even be in production till 2019 and it's a maxi ramp of about 98,000 lbs.

10-28-2018, 01:13 PM

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MX is paid for by the contract airline, fuel is paid for by the mainline partner. So no offsetting really.

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10-28-2018, 01:38 PM

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MX is paid for by the contract airline, fuel is paid for by the mainline partner. So no offsetting really.

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Depends on the contract as far as fuel goes. And if you want to get into nitty-gritty then take into account the more efficient engines having to be serviced less and the trailing link landing gear affecting gear/tire wear and the raked wingtips efficiency. You need to factor all of it in before you make a blanket statement about added costs. For all you know, costs decrease. I deliver the birds from Brazil, so I have a decent understanding of the E2 as I have been on several of them. Granted, the 175 has not yet been produced as I stated earlier. But if the 190/195-E2s are any foreshadowing, then this thing is gonna be great if scope ever grows to meet it.

10-28-2018, 03:30 PM

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Better double check your “same” type... maybe same. But FAA is considering it different for crews like they did for SWA/AS when the max’s arrived.. (so im told by a training manager)

10-28-2018, 03:44 PM

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Better double check your “same” type... maybe same. But FAA is considering it different for crews like they did for SWA/AS when the max’s arrived.. (so im told by a training manager)

AKA a differences CBT? That's all SWA requires to fly the MAX. It's not even different enough to require a "checkout" flight like they do for CRJ fleet with a 2/7/9.

I'm talking type - as in what shows on your cert. It's a B737 type. Not a B737-500/700/MAX8/etc... Same with the E2. Which is why they don't operate with two different fleet pilot groups at SWA, etc - as you suggested in one of your earlier posts for a worry with the E2 being a different "type."

10-28-2018, 05:19 PM

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But AS and SWA were required to drop there 737-400’s before the Max’s showed up.. im just telling you what a high up person said about the downfalls of the E2.. and the not likely hood of them showing up to a contract regional..

10-28-2018, 05:35 PM

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I agree it's not likely, but only because of scope. And I'm a SWA pilot. There would be no type issue with the E2. Same type. Same pilot group. Just a few days of differences training. Maybe the cost of the CBT/differences training was all your training dept friend was talking about, because it's not the rating or a separate pilot group.