RedOverWhite29

Live in KC. So it’s the only regional that has KC base. Not a must, but definitely wanted a live in base coming from corporate side of things. I’ve got other interviews set up.


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4V14T0R

I highly recommend getting on the seniority bus as quickly as possible. Get on somewhere else and reevaluate the decision to come to Republic as your class date with Republic approaches.

If your goal is to get up and out then some discomfort (I.e. commuting) may be beneficial.


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RedOverWhite29

Yeah. I decided on Skywest and one other tbd right now. It sucks because being the only KC base it made it an easy decision. Now starting the process all over from scratch 6 months later is a PITA.

WN is the ultimate goal, but didn’t want to hate life for 3-4 years commuting.


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4V14T0R

Like I said some discomfort from commuting may make force you to not be complacent. This is part of the reason we have a lot of lifers. Republic is by no means a bad place to be, but you’re putting you career on hold right now and lowering your final career earnings.


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RedOverWhite29

Stop spewing real world knowledge and facts to me like that. Lol


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4V14T0R

Alright I’ll stop.


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RedOverWhite29

I’m kidding of course. Thanks for the different point of view. Hopefully something happens soon. In the mean time I’m looking elsewhere.


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AvTr330

What regional would you guys recommend? I'm in NY, waiting on YX class date. Endeavor is backed up like crazy. Envoy's pay is not the greatest and bad reserve rules, low pilot morale. It leaves me stuck between Skywest and Expessjet.

Jungle Jim

YX LGA is going to be the measuring stick in NY. Shortest reserve (although not as short as it used to be) combined with the best work rules out of all 3 options make it hard to beat. We also have 2 large bases at EWR and LGA to choose from. I'm LGA based, and I have very little complaints about how things run day-to-day, but I'm also a line holder, and that makes things pretty easy around here. Is it worth the wait to get a class date? That's up to you. As previously mentioned, getting time quickly to move out quicker is pretty important.

I hear a rumor every few weeks is seems that Skywest isn't doing well in NY, so if they have any base that has a chance at closing, I'd presume it would be LGA. Again, rumor and largely unsubstantiated, but their NY performance numbers seem to correlate with that. I also hear nothing but awful things about their trip composition and reserve rules/usage directly from their pilots when I've been on their jumpseat, so if QOL is anything to you, might be something to consider, too. However, they are easily the quickest to get you through training and into a seat at the moment.

XJT has the CPP with United, so that might be worth a look. Otherwise, I can't really comment on the state of affairs over there at the present.

Envoy is a dumpster fire...the pay sucks, the trips suck, the work rules suck, and reserve is the pit of despair there. Most of their NY trips are designed mostly for commuters, so there isn't a huge advantage to living in base for them other than not having to commute at all - unless you're at the top of the seniority list. And like you mentioned, their pilot group is a bit restless right now. Their NY flying fluctuates wildly up and down from month-to-month, and recently, they've been heavily hiring into the 175 ORD and even DFW. You'll be seat locked for 2 years into that, so if you don't want to commute, that might not be a good option. The flow is hovering around 7 years, so odds of you punching the time clock at another regional and not making an upward move before then are pretty low vs waiting out the 7 years. But it's a guaranteed seat nonetheless.

And like you said, 9E has YX problems with backups in training. Once you get through, long reserve, much of it hot reserve at first, make things a little more precarious as well. Sitting at home on reserve is a whole lot better than sitting in the crew room for 8 hours a day if you decide to wait out a class date at either 9E or YX...

There isn't a perfect regional. They all have their ups and downs, and some are clearly better than others. You just have to decide what's most important to you. If getting flight time the quickest is best for you, then Skywest is probably the best option. If living in base QOL is most important to you, then I'd wait out for YX. If getting to mainline (United) the quickest, I'd take a hard look at XJT right now. If you're just a glutton for punishment and possibly want to look at commuting from a base to another base for years, ENY is right for you.

flydiamond

There is no training backup at 9E. The delayed class dates are because they are hiring a small fraction of what they were this time last year. The circumstances that created the training backup last year (eg the closure of the MSP 200 base) do not currently exist, so when Endeavor starts hiring again it should only be 3 months, maybe a few days more, to get through training.