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Old 05-31-2020 | 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LoneStar32
This is interesting because traditionally ORD has been an Envoy only 175 base for AA. Republic hasn't originated an AA pairing from there for years. I expect it to only be short term, Republic always seemed to have zero interest in growing their ORD base.
We pulled our last 175’s from ORD in Late winter/Early Spring 2017, so just over 3 years. Those planes were moved to PHL and MIA lines.

Currently, it’s 17 flights a day, with most cities starting on July 7th. MSP, IND, SDF are the most frequently flown with 3 daily each. The others are all 1-2 flights a day.

I wouldn’t say short term. ORD was slowly shrunk over those three years because of no AA flying initially, then followed by Delta. They won’t allow it to grow if it is short term, so only time will tell.

With that being said, if the AA 170 project is still alive, you will start to see more 140/145’s parked in favor of larger two class planes. A 65 seat 170 would have 9 First and 56 Y/Y+ which would compete nicely with UA’s CRJ550s at the smaller cities. For every 140 parked, that’s 21 seats added with a 170, plus the plane could have a slight price premium for the comfort.

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Old 05-31-2020 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Varsity
I don't think a 175 can fit in the G concourse, with the exception of those gates up top where Alaska/jetblue are.

They were talking bout the L Concourse


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Old 05-31-2020 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Tpinks
We pulled our last 175’s from ORD in Late winter/Early Spring 2017, so just over 3 years. Those planes were moved to PHL and MIA lines.

Currently, it’s 17 flights a day, with most cities starting on July 7th. MSP, IND, SDF are the most frequently flown with 3 daily each. The others are all 1-2 flights a day.

I wouldn’t say short term. ORD was slowly shrunk over those three years because of no AA flying initially, then followed by Delta. They won’t allow it to grow if it is short term, so only time will tell.

With that being said, if the AA 170 project is still alive, you will start to see more 140/145’s parked in favor of larger two class planes. A 65 seat 170 would have 9 First and 56 Y/Y+ which would compete nicely with UA’s CRJ550s at the smaller cities. For every 140 parked, that’s 21 seats added with a 170, plus the plane could have a slight price premium for the comfort.

Do you think this could be the end of the 145 for envoy then. Because those routes were 145 routes


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Old 05-31-2020 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jcool734
Do you think this could be the end of the 145 for envoy then. Because those routes were 145 routes


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I doubt it. It's best not to over-react to things like this. There's likely to be a good amount of shuffling that comes from COVID. It seems Envoy's 175s are taking some routes out of DCA that had been Republic's pre-COVID.
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Old 05-31-2020 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8
I doubt it. It's best not to over-react to things like this. There's likely to be a good amount of shuffling that comes from COVID. It seems Envoy's 175s are taking some routes out of DCA that had been Republic's pre-COVID.

Ahh ok just a thought that all I know the planning for rest of the year is fluid an forever changing by the minute.


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Old 05-31-2020 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Longhornmaniac8
I doubt it. It's best not to over-react to things like this. There's likely to be a good amount of shuffling that comes from COVID. It seems Envoy's 175s are taking some routes out of DCA that had been Republic's pre-COVID.
What routes?
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Old 05-31-2020 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by KCaviator
What routes?
DCA-DSM/BDL/MSP/MYR/CMH will all see Envoy 175's soon.
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Old 05-31-2020 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ClappedOut145
DCA-DSM/BDL/MSP/MYR/CMH will all see Envoy 175's soon.

They are in July


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Old 06-01-2020 | 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by jcool734
So there is a few posting at another AA regionals bout new republic routes starting in July. Anyone have any intel.


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Won't last. If it has anything to do with ORD Republic will surely give it up as soon as they can. ORD is and has been too far west for Republic to keep a large presence there for any extended period of time. Even tho we've seen what happens when they put all their eggs in the NY and northeast basket (a la COVID...)
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Old 06-01-2020 | 09:55 PM
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Won't last. If it has anything to do with ORD Republic will surely give it up as soon as they can. ORD is and has been too far west for Republic to keep a large presence there for any extended period of time. Even tho we've seen what happens when they put all their eggs in the NY and northeast basket (a la COVID...)
lmao. Sure it is... all 30 minutes further west of the mother land.... oh and don’t forget about MCI and IAH...
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