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#61
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I have dealt with gate agents from almost every airline (except Alaska or Hawaiian) across the US, AA agents are positively the worst I have dealt with, by a mile. In the past 5 years, maybe 5% of my GA interactions have been with AA agents, and they make up about half of all my negative experiences. I’m not saying they are the only bad gate agents out there or they are all awful, but I rarely have had positive interactions with them, while most my interactions with agents from every other airline have been good.
A few of the ones that stick out to me are:
-refusing to check me in for the jump seat on my own metal (happened twice, had to get dispatch to list me as an ACM on the release)
-refusing to check me in for the jump seat (D6U) on an AA flight 1.5 prior because “I need to figure out how to do it myself” (mind you, I was listed correctly, she just would not check me in)
-not to me but I watched it happen, GA refused to list an offline pilot for the JS, he finds another GA that will and as that gate agent is listing the pilot, the original gate agent, who is standing right there, closes the flight early right before the listing is complete just so that pilot won’t be able to take the flight.
Ive also witnessed AA agents close out flights with customers running down the hall and get to a few feet from the gate and the agent closes the flight early. (Intentionally)
giving pilots a hard time seemed to be SOP, like I’ve never seen before in any other operation. My friends who stayed based in ORD and DFW had plenty more horror stories than I did, but I only spent a couple months in an AA base.
#62
I have dealt with gate agents from almost every airline (except Alaska or Hawaiian) across the US, AA agents are positively the worst I have dealt with, by a mile. In the past 5 years, maybe 5% of my GA interactions have been with AA agents, and they make up about half of all my negative experiences. I’m not saying they are the only bad gate agents out there or they are all awful, but I rarely have had positive interactions with them, while most my interactions with agents from every other airline have been good.
A few of the ones that stick out to me are:
-refusing to check me in for the jump seat on my own metal (happened twice, had to get dispatch to list me as an ACM on the release)
-refusing to check me in for the jump seat (D6U) on an AA flight 1.5 prior because “I need to figure out how to do it myself” (mind you, I was listed correctly, she just would not check me in)
-not to me but I watched it happen, GA refused to list an offline pilot for the JS, he finds another GA that will and as that gate agent is listing the pilot, the original gate agent, who is standing right there, closes the flight early right before the listing is complete just so that pilot won’t be able to take the flight.
Ive also witnessed AA agents close out flights with customers running down the hall and get to a few feet from the gate and the agent closes the flight early. (Intentionally)
giving pilots a hard time seemed to be SOP, like I’ve never seen before in any other operation. My friends who stayed based in ORD and DFW had plenty more horror stories than I did, but I only spent a couple months in an AA base.
A few of the ones that stick out to me are:
-refusing to check me in for the jump seat on my own metal (happened twice, had to get dispatch to list me as an ACM on the release)
-refusing to check me in for the jump seat (D6U) on an AA flight 1.5 prior because “I need to figure out how to do it myself” (mind you, I was listed correctly, she just would not check me in)
-not to me but I watched it happen, GA refused to list an offline pilot for the JS, he finds another GA that will and as that gate agent is listing the pilot, the original gate agent, who is standing right there, closes the flight early right before the listing is complete just so that pilot won’t be able to take the flight.
Ive also witnessed AA agents close out flights with customers running down the hall and get to a few feet from the gate and the agent closes the flight early. (Intentionally)
giving pilots a hard time seemed to be SOP, like I’ve never seen before in any other operation. My friends who stayed based in ORD and DFW had plenty more horror stories than I did, but I only spent a couple months in an AA base.
#63
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sorry for how you’re treated, it’s unacceptable but it’s not something the company cares about. Every time I deadhead or nonrev, I’m shocked about how our agents treat our customers. We come in last in every possible metric and it’s nothing but a punch line around here, nobody really cares that we suck.
once I’ve gotten past the GAs, crews have treated me well, and for that I thank you all.
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#65
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The sad part is that the legacy US Air agents are awesome. You won't receive that kind of treatment from them. But DFW MIA ORD LGA have been some of my worst experiences nonreving or JS. I know this so whenever I encounter a legacy AA agent I always make sure to look out for JS and nonrevs because if they're there my plane and my JS better be full.
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thanks for pre flighting the jumpseat, always good to see that
-Cheers
#66
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Is the issue between listing as a AAC (seat in the back) or D6U (Jumpseat)? I have no idea what rpa pilots have to do to list but when I list for SWA I have to choose between cabin or Jumpseat and I just pick jumpseat and if there are seats in the back I get a seat. How does it work for RPA pilots listing on AA?
We have a few issues with a js over here at AA: no access to cabin js, no second 737 js, and any eagle fdj trumps an AA pilot even if not there metal but a fellow eagle flight (psa fdj get priority on envoy over AA). Guess we will just add this AAC issue to the list
We have a few issues with a js over here at AA: no access to cabin js, no second 737 js, and any eagle fdj trumps an AA pilot even if not there metal but a fellow eagle flight (psa fdj get priority on envoy over AA). Guess we will just add this AAC issue to the list
#67
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Is the issue between listing as a AAC (seat in the back) or D6U (Jumpseat)? I have no idea what rpa pilots have to do to list but when I list for SWA I have to choose between cabin or Jumpseat and I just pick jumpseat and if there are seats in the back I get a seat. How does it work for RPA pilots listing on AA?
We have a few issues with a js over here at AA: no access to cabin js, no second 737 js, and any eagle fdj trumps an AA pilot even if not there metal but a fellow eagle flight (psa fdj get priority on envoy over AA). Guess we will just add this AAC issue to the list
We have a few issues with a js over here at AA: no access to cabin js, no second 737 js, and any eagle fdj trumps an AA pilot even if not there metal but a fellow eagle flight (psa fdj get priority on envoy over AA). Guess we will just add this AAC issue to the list
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#70
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Heck, idk. Just trying to understand the issue better and why someone wouldn't list D6U. I see the rpa pilots side of things but I also see the other side but to be honest I dont ride the js much and I hate to see everyone all fired up over something that rarely happens
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