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#101
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Joined APC: Sep 2022
Posts: 393
lol no it’s not. 25 is still the norm and if you need to go to 50 you can with no consequence but above that rpa will start to question if you can fly the plane with termination on the table. 25hrs plus or minus is normal depending on how the hours work out trip wise. 2 to 3 trips is all it should take. If you’re even close to 80 they looking to get rid of you
#102
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Joined APC: Dec 2014
Posts: 362
This guy just wants someone to tell him he wasn’t wrong and to give him a job. Clearly doesn’t take any criticism or advice thrown at him. Instead of accountability it’s a poor me, now fix it for me…
#103
Resignation not being worse than termination seems not to be the case for the carriers reviewing his app.
Things like no rudder on a v1 cut though... Thats pretty horrendous!
But like others have suggested... Places like Ameriflight might be a good place to look.
Things like no rudder on a v1 cut though... Thats pretty horrendous!
But like others have suggested... Places like Ameriflight might be a good place to look.
#104
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Joined APC: Feb 2022
Posts: 152
#106
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Joined APC: Dec 2020
Posts: 556
Why risk that with a JV training department?
#107
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Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,104
On an individual level, what is the benefit of upgrading if you’re planning on leaving for a legacy? They aren’t requiring 121 PIC time at all, and CA upgrade doesn’t do anything but add another set of jeopardy events that could keep you away from your dream job.
Why risk that with a JV training department?
Why risk that with a JV training department?
Upgrading is about more than checking boxes. It's about experience, pay, and doing what you should have come to do: fly airplanes. It's fine to be copilot for so long, but there comes a point when one may just want to be a pilot in command again, and take on the privileges and responsibilities that come with the job.
If you're afraid of risking your position, ask yourself about your competency level.
A first officer once asked me for a recommendation as captain. We chatted for a bit, and when we discussed his pilot in command time, he had a grand total of about 300 hours. I asked him about which of the seven companies he'd flown for, that he got that time as captain. He said he'd never been a captain. He'd jumped from company to company as a first officer, never upgrading. All of his pilot in command time was in a Cessna 172, years prior. He wanted to gain pilot in command time, he said; that was his motivation to upgrade. He wanted to do it in a widebody heavy transport, flying internationally, in an environment in which the company essentially tossed the captain the keys to the airplane and said "good luck." Perhaps not the wisest choice on his part.
If you've been flying the airplane at your regional for a time, and you believe you're proficient enough, know the airplane, procedures, and the company enough, and you've been observant enough to understand your duties and the process of being a captain, then it's a natural progression. I can't imagine hiding in a little paper bag and avoiding upgrade, out of fear one might not pass.
What do you get from being captain? Insight, understanding, and experience about the role that is beyond what you'll experience playing it safe in the right seat. You might just find some satisfaction, too.
Remember, day one of your upgrade training was day one of your initial hire indoc. You may not have appreciated it at the time, but that was the first day of your captain upgrade class, whether you knew it, or not.
#109
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Joined APC: Jun 2012
Posts: 6,104
Weren't you the guy who knew about Covid ten years before it existed? Little wonder you've been reading me for years. You're probably reading novels that haven't been written yet, and spending time in the company of friends...who don't exist.
The irony is that you weren't mentioned in this thread, until you just interjected yourself and made it all about you, as though anyone here cared in the slightest. Sorry? Nobody mentioned your name. And yet, here you are, and you materialized out of nowhere for no other purpose than to let me know you can't here me, even though it's irrelevant to the thread. That's a kind of special, right there. Short-bus special.
Waddaya say, brightspark?
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