I am glad to see you value yourself, but quitting on the first day might not set a good precedence and could create for future challenges. The main issue I see you will have at RAH is if they assign you to a certificate or equipment that isn't based where you want to be at (they currently don't allow moving around). Your best bet would be to seek employment at one of the two airlines under the SKW umbrella that are currently hiring.

Are there any 135 operators near where you live? I am not trying to be an ahole, but it sounds like a champagne expectation and the regionals only offer you a beer. :). It is just too hard to call the shots day one in my opinion.

I'd like to stick with 121....if anything, to at least have an idea about my off days.

And no, you're not coming across that way and I hope I'm not coming across as pompous or entitled. I guess I am taking the perspective of not so much raised expectations and calling the shots, but more like if they are not for me, then I am not for them and I would just decline. No skin of my back and no skin off theirs.

BTW; I'd take beer (even swill) over the finest Champagne any day!;)

hmmm...positives..let see:

no junior manning.

thats about i can think of..

What base are you looking for? There has been a decent amount of movement lately so depending on what you are looking for you might get it right away or after a few months. One of the biggest reasons I came here is for the base but I have been very lucky over the past 4 years and my base hasn't closed. I'm pretty sure every other person I was hired with has been displaced at least once and a good amount multiple times. Going by those numbers there is about a 90% chance you will eventually be displaced to another base.

You should know what certificate you'll be on before you accept the job but you might not get your base until close to the end of your training. I don't think we found out until we were almost done with sim training. The biggest thing to keep in mind if you come here (probably the same with most regionals) is that you are just a number and your QOL means nothing to the company. If they need you somewhere they are going to put you there it doesn't matter how much it might disrupt your life.

- No junior manning
- No hot reserve

I'm really sick of people saying this as if its a fact just because they work at a crap place. Some regionals actually have a decent contract and arent horrible places to be. All you have to do is some research to figure them out.

SDF would be the first choice. I would reluctantly be ok with IND as I have family there.

I guess that rules me out as far as my initial methods for determining if I would accept or decline. Oh well. I guess if I really want to do this, I will have to accept that I will be commuting......have to stew a bit on this one.

Thank you anyway for the info.

EVERY airline I know of has a "No Junior Manning" clause, you just have to know where to look. Don't believe me? Looking under your company's alcohol policy is a good place to start! ;)

Scheduler Bob: First Officer Soandsoski? This is Bob from scheduling.

FO Soandsoski: *sound of beer being opened* Hi Bob, how are you today?

Scheduler Bob: I'm well, thanks for asking. Unfortunately, I am calling to junior man you. You report in 2 hours for a stand-up overnight to BFE with our most annoying captain and the ugliest, whiniest flight attendant at the company.

FO Soandsoski: *sound of drinking beer* Well Bob, unfortunately I am sitting on my patio enjoying this splendid afternoon and I am already two beers deep and working on number three. If you want to delay the flight for 8/12 hours, I would be more than happy to help you then.

Schedular Bob: Oh uh... We can't do that... Thanks anyway. *click*

Of course you can avoid that conversation in the first place by not answering your phone if you don't have to and scheduling calls! But you're right, major win on THAT clause!:rolleyes:

To the OP, I admire your willingness to flip them the bird if things don't fit your circumstances. I just wish more people were willing to do the same rather than bend over and take it for $19/hr. My only word of caution would be the training contract at RAH (one of the few left in the industry). If you do decide to start training and get most of the way through (I think one guy said they didn't learn their bases until almost done with sims?) then quit, you may get left holding the bag. I would make sure you know every detail about that training contract before you set foot in their training facility. What say you current RAH guys?

When I signed the training contract 5 years ago, still FO, it didn't apply until after completion of IOE. So, the few that either left or washed out of training owed nothing.