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Originally Posted by Emma Goldman
(Post 1158524)
I'm hoping they give you the airline and base with the employment offer....but that's probably just wishful thinking. I draw the line at I don't want to deal with a crashpad/commuting with a regional gig. |
Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
(Post 1158586)
EVERY airline I know of has a "No Junior Manning" clause, you just have to know where to look. Don't believe me? Looking under your company's alcohol policy is a good place to start! ;)
Scheduler Bob: First Officer Soandsoski? This is Bob from scheduling. FO Soandsoski: *sound of beer being opened* Hi Bob, how are you today? Scheduler Bob: I'm well, thanks for asking. Unfortunately, I am calling to junior man you. You report in 2 hours for a stand-up overnight to BFE with our most annoying captain and the ugliest, whiniest flight attendant at the company. FO Soandsoski: *sound of drinking beer* Well Bob, unfortunately I am sitting on my patio enjoying this splendid afternoon and I am already two beers deep and working on number three. If you want to delay the flight for 8/12 hours, I would be more than happy to help you then. Schedular Bob: Oh uh... We can't do that... Thanks anyway. *click* Of course you can avoid that conversation in the first place by not answering your phone if you don't have to and scheduling calls! But you're right, major win on THAT clause!:rolleyes: To the OP, I admire your willingness to flip them the bird if things don't fit your circumstances. I just wish more people were willing to do the same rather than bend over and take it for $19/hr. My only word of caution would be the training contract at RAH (one of the few left in the industry). If you do decide to start training and get most of the way through (I think one guy said they didn't learn their bases until almost done with sims?) then quit, you may get left holding the bag. I would make sure you know every detail about that training contract before you set foot in their training facility. What say you current RAH guys? |
Originally Posted by sticky
(Post 1158554)
hmmm...positives..let see:
no junior manning. thats about i can think of.. Scheduler Bob: First Officer Soandsoski? This is Bob from scheduling. FO Soandsoski: *sound of beer being opened* Hi Bob, how are you today? Scheduler Bob: I'm well, thanks for asking. Unfortunately, I am calling to junior man you. You report in 2 hours for a stand-up overnight to BFE with our most annoying captain and the ugliest, whiniest flight attendant at the company. FO Soandsoski: *sound of drinking beer* Well Bob, unfortunately I am sitting on my patio enjoying this splendid afternoon and I am already two beers deep and working on number three. If you want to delay the flight for 8/12 hours, I would be more than happy to help you then. Schedular Bob: Oh uh... We can't do that... Thanks anyway. *click* Of course you can avoid that conversation in the first place by not answering your phone if you don't have to and scheduling calls! But you're right, major win on THAT clause!:rolleyes: To the OP, I admire your willingness to flip them the bird if things don't fit your circumstances. I just wish more people were willing to do the same rather than bend over and take it for $19/hr. My only word of caution would be the training contract at RAH (one of the few left in the industry). If you do decide to start training and get most of the way through (I think one guy said they didn't learn their bases until almost done with sims?) then quit, you may get left holding the bag. I would make sure you know every detail about that training contract before you set foot in their training facility. What say you current RAH guys? |
Originally Posted by gearmaid
(Post 1158600)
How about when they ACARS you enroute on your last leg, or put it on the release, or place schedulers at each hub to meet you at the plane. Mesa peeps know what I'm talking about!
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Originally Posted by spank
(Post 1158598)
NOT great advice...next thing you know you're pulled from the line without pay and given the ultimatum of alcohol counseling or termination. If you aren't on duty, don't answer the phone.
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Originally Posted by flysooner9
(Post 1158530)
Well that's a great attitude to go in with..
Good for you Emma, I'd probably do the same thing. Commuting sucks. I'm based at home right now, on reserve. I could hold a line at another base if I commuted, but I'd never do it. No amount of line-holder work rules can make up for the commute. My QOL is 10x better when I'm based at home. |
Originally Posted by gearmaid
(Post 1158600)
How about when they ACARS you enroute on your last leg, or put it on the release, or place schedulers at each hub to meet you at the plane. Mesa peeps know what I'm talking about!
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"Choosing to commute" haha I was in 8 different bases over 3 years. I had no choice to commute. If you go to Republic, you will have to either commute sometime, or quit. Bases open and close at a whim. I am lucky and have been in the same base for the last year now, but......
RAHcontractnow.org says it all right now. Who knows what the future brings, but as it stands |
Originally Posted by spank
(Post 1158598)
NOT great advice...next thing you know you're pulled from the line without pay and given the ultimatum of alcohol counseling or termination. If you aren't on duty, don't answer the phone.
Besides, to determine if one needs counseling requires more than that, like DUI's, showing up for duty while under the influence, volunteering yourself etc.. I do agree that not answering is the simplest way to avoid JA, but answering with the beer thing would be more fun!:D |
Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
(Post 1158586)
EVERY airline I know of has a "No Junior Manning" clause, you just have to know where to look. Don't believe me? Looking under your company's alcohol policy is a good place to start! ;)
Scheduler Bob: First Officer Soandsoski? This is Bob from scheduling. FO Soandsoski: *sound of beer being opened* Hi Bob, how are you today? Scheduler Bob: I'm well, thanks for asking. Unfortunately, I am calling to junior man you. You report in 2 hours for a stand-up overnight to BFE with our most annoying captain and the ugliest, whiniest flight attendant at the company. FO Soandsoski: *sound of drinking beer* Well Bob, unfortunately I am sitting on my patio enjoying this splendid afternoon and I am already two beers deep and working on number three. If you want to delay the flight for 8/12 hours, I would be more than happy to help you then. Schedular Bob: Oh uh... We can't do that... Thanks anyway. *click* Of course you can avoid that conversation in the first place by not answering your phone if you don't have to and scheduling calls! But you're right, major win on THAT clause!:rolleyes: To the OP, I admire your willingness to flip them the bird if things don't fit your circumstances. I just wish more people were willing to do the same rather than bend over and take it for $19/hr. My only word of caution would be the training contract at RAH (one of the few left in the industry). If you do decide to start training and get most of the way through (I think one guy said they didn't learn their bases until almost done with sims?) then quit, you may get left holding the bag. I would make sure you know every detail about that training contract before you set foot in their training facility. What say you current RAH guys? Nice job! |
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